A Pic and some questions

**antisocialmunky** · 01-24-2009, 03:51

Congratulations on obtaining a Vladimir Putin, I will have to try that. Can anyone confirm what Swiss is saying?

**Olaf Blackeyes** · 01-24-2009, 04:19

K here's a full list of my guys traits

BTW i can support what swiss is saying cuz thats what it told me to do. I just did it cuz i didnt want him to get 2$!ed up

**Novellus** · 01-24-2009, 04:37

Originally Posted by antisocialmunky

Congratulations on obtaining a Vladimir Putin, I will have to try that. Can anyone confirm what Swiss is saying?

In my experience, I have sent several characters with different trait combinations:

Sharp/Charismatic/Langorous
Sharp/Uncharismatic/Vigorous
Dull/Charismatic/Vigorous

The ones that were vigorous received traits that helped with the hitpoints of the general. They graduated the Agogae with no negative effects.

However, I had a young Spartan who I sent to the Agogae who had this:

Sharp/Charismatic/Vigorous

Not only did he obtain the hitpoints (which was all I expected), but he excelled in the agogae and became a Kryptos.

Remember that special organizations need top-notch leaders. That is probably why Sharp and Charismatic people excell here. And the trait, Vigorous, also commands respect from peers, having succeeded in undergoing some of the most rigorous training regiments in Greece. Characters with Sharp and Charismatic who did not have the Vigorous trait could not become Kryptos, or at least in my experience.

I can't say anything about the Loyalty, but I'm sure that my general had that trait as well. Unfortunately, I don't have any screenshots to post, so you'll have to take my word on it.

**gamegeek2** · 01-24-2009, 05:16

There's some weird trait that means the FM is a "supervisor of females at the gymnasion..." I forget its name but it's interesting...

**Olaf Blackeyes** · 01-24-2009, 07:23

I think u mean this.

And this lucky bastard get to have a NICE day at work.
I swear im hitting the @#$$!@$ING JACKPOT with this KH campaign.
Whomever wrote this one up, i ##!ING LOVE U!!!!!

**HunGeneral** · 01-24-2009, 13:15

Hmmm. I didn't know there is a trait like that (I mean the "former Kryptea member").
Can other hellenic factions FM's get that trait or only Koinon spartans??

**theoldbelgian** · 01-24-2009, 14:20

i think that for the krypteia you have to have a spartan ethnity
so technicly if you have a spartan general adopted as makedonia he could be in the Krypteia

**antisocialmunky** · 01-24-2009, 15:41

Well, that does help. However, every Spartan I have is seditious. Also, everyone else I stick in there gets the 'Utterly Incompetent' trait that ruins him for life... unless he's Rhodian because those Rhodians get ridiculous management.

**Ludens** · 01-24-2009, 13:38

Originally Posted by antisocialmunky

Congratulations on obtaining a Vladimir Putin, I will have to try that. Can anyone confirm what Swiss is saying?

Yes, check out the 2007 June preview: the process of going through the agoge is explained there. Performance in the krypteia is indeed affected by the primary character traits (intelligence, charisma, vigour), but don't know exactly how. It's worth to keep in mind that there are in fact six levels of each of these traits, but you only see the broad trend on the character detail scroll.

Does anybody know what traits the agoge and krypteia affect

Originally Posted by HunGeneral

Can other hellenic factions FM's get that trait or only Koinon spartans??

All faction members of all proper hellenic faction (so not just Spartans) can participate in the agoge, provided their faction owns Sparta off course.