The Emerging Factions (Rebels and Revolutions)

[Polemists]

Not sure on cheat, but most gamers seem to understand the code and event code pretty good.

I'm sure there will be someway to adjust unrest in the capital to a level enough to start it, if just natural unrest dosn't do it.

I assume though civil war will be common, as revoultion seems to be a major aspect of gameplay.

[Sir Beane]

Not sure on cheat, but most gamers seem to understand the code and event code pretty good.

I'm sure there will be someway to adjust unrest in the capital to a level enough to start it, if just natural unrest dosn't do it.

I assume though civil war will be common, as revoultion seems to be a major aspect of gameplay.

Actually I'm betting they won't be common for the player unless they are deliberately trying to start one.

If Empire is anything like Rome and Medieval 2 then I won't be letting the happiness in my home province drop anywhere near low enough to trigger a civil war. My home provinces are always at 100% or higher, and I think most players are probably similar.

We might see the A.I constantly at war with itself however, since the A.I has never been great at managing anything much, and province loyalty is no exception.

@ Ishmael

If you really hate the idea of re-emerging factions then you can probably mod it out of the game. I hope the vanilla game has it however, because it is easier to mod it out than in.

[Polemists]

Clearly to properly understand the depths of revoultion and province loyalty (yes your seeing a trend now) we clearly need


A DEMO

[Fisherking]

Clearly to properly understand the depths of revoultion and province loyalty (yes your seeing a trend now) we clearly need


A DEMO

Why don’t you just make Demo your signature! It will save you a lot of time.


@ Sir Beane

I don’t know what game you were playing but at times in M2TW it took me years and years to get some places to rebel.

Some I had 100% converted and no improvements and it still was not enough!

I had to resort to herding in heretics in the end. And they had a tendency to die from old age on the way!

Have you ever tried to herd heretics? It isn’t fun and it is time consuming! Just finding one when you want it is a problem, not to mention inquisitors and AI bishops trying to get at them….

[Sir Beane]

Why don’t you just make Demo your signature! It will save you a lot of time.


@ Sir Beane

I don’t know what game you were playing but at times in M2TW it took me years and years to get some places to rebel.

Some I had 100% converted and no improvements and it still was not enough!

I had to resort to herding in heretics in the end. And they had a tendency to die from old age on the way!

Have you ever tried to herd heretics? It isn’t fun and it is time consuming! Just finding one when you want it is a problem, not to mention inquisitors and AI bishops trying to get at them….

Well it's a different manner when you want to get an A.I province to rebel. I'm sure some kind of code kicks in called 'frustrate the player' thus making all A.I provinces skyrocket to 200% loyalty.

If you aren't actively trying to cause a revolt though the A.I seems to hover at around 80% loyalty in many of it's provinces. This is usually a result of it not upgrading infrastructure or keeping cities properly garrisoned.

Also for herding heretics you need a special kind of dog. It's like a border collie except imbued with the righteous fury of the catholic church. I hear that it glows with holy power, which is useful for herding at night and also for keeping vampires away.

[Polemists]

Why don’t you just make Demo your signature! It will save you a lot of time

It is done but I assure you the demo mentions have only just begun


Oh onto topic.


Well it didn't happen in Rome because there was a factor based on Distance from Capital under unrest. This usually was the reason places revolted. It was reason people moved capitals.

So your capital wouldn't revolt because it usually had no Distance from Capital and usually it didn't have high corruption. Plus , as it is your Capital, Religion Unrest and Cultural Unrest were usually non exsistant :)

[Sir Beane]

It is done but I assure you the demo mentions have only just begun


Oh onto topic.


Well it didn't happen in Rome because there was a factor based on Distance from Capital under unrest. This usually was the reason places revolted. It was reason people moved capitals.

So your capital wouldn't revolt because it usually had no Distance from Capital and usually it didn't have high corruption. Plus , as it is your Capital, Religion Unrest and Cultural Unrest were usually non exsistant :)

Exactly, which is why I don't see civil war occuring very often for the player unless they are doing it deliberately. It's a good thing though, because despite what marketing hype might have you believe civil wars and revoutions were not all that common from 1700-1799. They happened, but not all the time everywhere.

Unless of course loyalty works somehwat differently in Empire, which it probably will.

I really want to post up a thread saying something like CA releases Empire Demo! Just for the inevitable storm of hatred and disappointment (which is always hilarious for a spectator.) Of course then I would be lynched (especially because I used my real location.)

[Fisherking]

Well it's a different manner when you want to get an A.I province to rebel. I'm sure some kind of code kicks in called 'frustrate the player' thus making all A.I provinces skyrocket to 200% loyalty.

If you aren't actively trying to cause a revolt though the A.I seems to hover at around 80% loyalty in many of it's provinces. This is usually a result of it not upgrading infrastructure or keeping cities properly garrisoned.

Also for herding heretics you need a special kind of dog. It's like a border collie except imbued with the righteous fury of the catholic church. I hear that it glows with holy power, which is useful for herding at night and also for keeping vampires away.

That was really no joke about herding heretics!

It is a variant on the surround and squish! You have to surround on three sides and steer the little fellow to where you want him to go.

Horsemen work best because they have more moves…of course you can set up relays to move them faster…

Sorry, no border collie units!

They say they have taken all the exploits out of this game. Ha! We think we have found at least one and we don’t have the game yet!

Just wait!

[Polemists]

They say they have taken all the exploits out of this game. Ha! We think we have found at least one and we don’t have the game yet!

Yes and we could find more exploits.....if we had a demo ....o wait...that argument dosn't work


Okay on to topic at hand.


While I hope the emerging factions get enough units to start I hope they are not over power. It was kind of ridiculous how strong the Roman Britannia faction was , like 800 knights out of nowhere from a province of 100 spear men lol