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  • I support the Israelis, and I think I can win some people over.

    2 5.41%
  • I support the Palestinians, and I think I can win some people over.

    1 2.70%
  • I support the Israelis, but I doubt I'll win anyone over.

    7 18.92%
  • I support the Palestinians, but I doubt I'll win anyone over.

    4 10.81%
  • I support the Israelis. I don't care what anyone else thinks.

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    @Bopa-
    so you are legitimizing suicide bombers, the kind of people who killed two cousins and a friend of mine? people who murdered my friend/cousins for no reason other than because they were jewish?
    i have no words for you to express my utter disgust.
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    Default Re: Israel/Palestine... Why?

    This isn't a zero sum game. I support both parties... pretty much along the lines of what Horetore has said about the one state solution or something similar.



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    odd, the results are coming out the opposite of what i would have predicted, for those who profess an opinion, must be the result of my victim complex.
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    I didn't now Gah! was so well supported either...

    I think i now what you mean... i put myself down as a palestinian supporter so to speak, rather because i was defining myself but what others would think rather than my opinion of my views.... whereas i would have gone for the Gah! option as i see both sides as bad as each other... which is what i think a lot of the 'pro-palestinian' people actually think...

    The reason i come off as pro palestinian is because i think the israelis are the only ones who could solve the problem but choose not to....
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    Im sorry but what is the difference between legitimising suicide bombers and legitimising the isreali attacks... both are equally legitimate or illegitimate as far as im concerned...

    I wouldn't legitimise the actions of either side... but i can certainly understand why a suicide bomber does what he does... and i can also understand why an israeli feels right to strike at palestinians....
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    Quote Originally Posted by hooahguy View Post
    @Bopa-
    so you are legitimizing suicide bombers, the kind of people who killed two cousins and a friend of mine? people who murdered my friend/cousins for no reason other than because they were jewish?
    i have no words for you to express my utter disgust.
    They were not killed because they were Jewish, that Palestinian was not looking to go and kill a Jew, he was looking to kill an Israeli.
    No reason? Well I think that you are being foolish if you think that the Palestinian killed himself and others for no reason. The Palestinians have plenty of reasons to kill Israelis.

    Disgust...
    and the icon, yeah very powerful coming from someone who supports a war machine which tortures children...
    Try again please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bopa the Magyar View Post
    They were not killed because they were Jewish, that Palestinian was not looking to go and kill a Jew, he was looking to kill an Israeli.
    No reason? Well I think that you are being foolish if you think that the Palestinian killed himself and others for no reason. The Palestinians have plenty of reasons to kill Israelis.

    Disgust...
    and the icon, yeah very powerful coming from someone who supports a war machine which tortures children...
    Try again please.
    Okay, I've learned 2 things:

    1) The vast majority of you are too to pony up one way or the other. You'd rather vote "Gah" and go on griping about both sides, without doing any hard work of taking a stance.


    2) Bopa has no compassion for somebody who's lost family members. He'd rather tell somebody who lost a cousin that they got what they had coming to them. Damn....

    If a moderator would be so kind as to close this thread, I think I've learned everything I need to about the Backroom in general, and Bopa in particular. I knew there were hateful people hanging around, but I didn't know it got down to this level....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Corleone View Post
    Okay, I've learned 2 things:

    1) The vast majority of you are too to pony up one way or the other. You'd rather vote "Gah" and go on griping about both sides, without doing any hard work of taking a stance.


    2) Bopa has no compassion for somebody who's lost family members. He'd rather tell somebody who lost a cousin that they got what they had coming to them. Damn....

    If a moderator would be so kind as to close this thread, I think I've learned everything I need to about the Backroom in general, and Bopa in particular. I knew there were hateful people hanging around, but I didn't know it got down to this level....
    Yes, so much compassion for the thousands of slain Palestinian children has been show here.
    I am not celebrating the death of anyone, I just thought that hooah had drawn the wrong conclusion from the experience.
    I was annoyed at his disgust and icon because of his views on the IDF which is known to have tortured children.

    Now, I understand why hooah's friend and cousins were killed, but I feel that he does not and this is a big problem. He used the term Jewish and believed that the bomber had no good reason. This is a clearly dangerous mindset because it shows he has no understanding of the Palestinians. The bomber clearly had a reason and to him a good one.

    Hmm, so it would seem that you either have an inherent dislike for me becasue I am pro-Palestinian or you did not read my post properly.

    Also, I called him out on the icon because I felt it was a cheap shot, nowhere did I say that it was "AWSOME TEH COOLZ" that Israeli civilians were being killed.
    I dislike his attempt to shame me out of the discussion, something which you have also tried to do Don

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    The man said he lost two friends and a cousin, and you all as much as said "GOOD!". Justify it any way you want to, claim victim status if it makes you feel better, but you gloated that somebody died. Yes, hundreds of Palestinian children died, and that's horrible. That doesn't excuse you gloating over Hooahs friends and relatives dying. At least be a man and own your words, or are you capable of that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Corleone View Post
    The man said he lost two friends and a cousin, and you all as much as said "GOOD!". Justify it any way you want to, claim victim status if it makes you feel better, but you gloated that somebody died. Yes, hundreds of Palestinian children died, and that's horrible. That doesn't excuse you gloating over Hooahs friends and relatives dying. At least be a man and own your words, or are you capable of that?
    Hmmm, so Don where did I say "GOOD"?
    Oh sorry its that you read from my post that I had almost, kinda said good but actually had not, but that doesn't matter because that is what you took from it?
    Oh, ok then Don, I am very sorry for having allowed you to misread my post and get angry

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    Like I said, I know everything I need to about you, flyspeck.
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