Does this mean Rush Limbaugh hates America???

[Xiahou]

Grammar note: If it's the "Democrat party" then it should also be the "Republic party." Find some consistency, man.

Democrat party members are Democrats. Republican party members are Republicans. Democratic party members would be Democratics. It's simple- see?

[KukriKhan]

If they had just let him buy the St. Louis Rams, or be on Monday Night Football, or keep that gig on ESPN, he'd have been too busy to be a pain in the side. That's all the boy ever wanted: some grid-iron love.

But, spurned love has driven him to his second choice: bugging LIB-ruhlz, and making them squirm. Now he, and the rest of right-wing talk radio, have a built-in cause to bring up anytime they need to fill air-time; the "Fairness Doctrine", and how the evil Dem's will try to shut them up.

Rush, Hannity, Beck, Savage, O'Rielly... all of them mention something about that within their 3rd hour of talk, everyday.

[Lemur]

Democrat party members are Democrats. Republican party members are Republicans. Democratic party members would be Democratics. It's simple- see?

At moments like this, I have to wonder about you, Xiahou.

Do we need to go over the difference between an adjective and a noun again? For a guy who's such a stickler when he hears something he doesn't like, you show a shocking laxity when it comes to pushing bad info. Here, let me Google that for you:

Definition and proper usage of "democratic." That wasn't so hard, now was it? What do you know, it's a real word and it applies to the Democratic Party.

No matter how much you disdain the Dems, why not do the right thing and use the correct term? Do a favor to grammar and usage, and make yourself seem like less of a purely partisan creature at the same time. Double bonus!

[Lord Winter]

At moments like this, I have to wonder about you, Xiahou.

Do we need to go over the difference between an adjective and a noun again? For a guy who's such a stickler when he hears something he doesn't like, you show a shocking laxity when it comes to pushing bad info. Here, let me Google that for you:

Definition and proper usage of "democratic." That wasn't so hard, now was it? What do you know, it's a real word and it applies to the Democratic Party.

No matter how much you disdain the Dems, why not do the right thing and use the correct term? Do a favor to grammar and usage, and make yourself seem like less of a purely partisan creature at the same time. Double bonus!

and the point of this grammer lesson is?

[Lemur]

and the point of this grammer lesson is?

Ask the people who refuse to use the language correctly.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

The whole lot should be turned out and each one replaced by one of their constituents selected at random from the list of registered voters.

Most of these folks, being regular people, would simply gasp -- responding as they would if it were their own checkbooks -- and lop about half of the federal budget off.

[KukriKhan]

The whole lot should be turned out and each one replaced by one of their constituents selected at random from the list of registered voters.

Most of these folks, being regular people, would simply gasp -- responding as they would if it were their own checkbooks -- and lop about half of the federal budget off.

Rofl.

Right on.

Errr, I mean: Commie.

[Xiahou]

Do we need to go over the difference between an adjective and a noun again?

No, but apparently we need to go over proper nouns with you.

[ICantSpellDawg]

Congrats to Michael Steele. First step in the right direction for the G.O.P. in a while.

[Lemur]

No, but apparently we need to go over proper nouns with you.

If you're going to base your argument on proper nouns then you're still wrong. If the Dems choose to call themselves "Democratic," thus correctly mirroring the word's usage when placed as an adjective, who are you to amend them? What a person or group choose to call themselves is their business, surely, and not really the province of their sworn ideological foes.

You're wrong on grammar, wrong on usage, wrong on courtesy, and wrong when you frame the argument in a way that you mistakenly think is in your favor. I find it quite amazing that you're sticking to your guns on this one. If you are incapable of admitting a simple grammatical error ...

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I see Wikipedia has an entire article about your verbal tic.

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Found another article about your pet malapropism.

There’s no great mystery about the motives behind this deliberate misnaming. “Democrat Party” is a slur, or intended to be—a handy way to express contempt. Aesthetic judgments are subjective, of course, but “Democrat Party” is jarring verging on ugly. [...] “Democrat Party” is standard jargon on right-wing talk radio and common on winger Web sites like NewsMax.com, which blue-pencils Associated Press dispatches to de-“ic” references to the Party of F.D.R. and J.F.K. (The resulting impression that “Democrat Party” is O.K. with the A.P. is as phony as a North Korean travel brochure.) The respectable conservative journals of opinion sprinkle the phrase around their Web sites but go light on it in their print editions. William F. Buckley, Jr., the Miss Manners cum Dr. Johnson of modern conservatism, dealt with the question in a 2000 column in National Review, the magazine he had founded forty-five years before. “I have an aversion to ‘Democrat’ as an adjective,” Buckley began.

Dear Joe McCarthy used to do that, and received a rebuke from this at-the-time 24-year-old. It has the effect of injecting politics into language, and that should be avoided. Granted there are diffculties, as when one desires to describe a “democratic” politician, and is jolted by possible ambiguity. But English does that to us all the time, and it’s our job to get the correct meaning transmitted without contorting the language.

[Xiahou]

If you're going to base your argument on proper nouns then you're still wrong. If the Dems choose to call themselves "Democratic," thus correctly mirroring the word's usage when placed as an adjective, who are you to amend them? What a person or group choose to call themselves is their business, surely, and not really the province of their sworn ideological foes.

They can call themselves whatever they want. Republican Party Members call themselves Republicans; Green Party, Greens; Libertarian Party, Libertarians; Communist Party, Communists. Democratic Party, Democrats?

Again, they can call themselves whatever they want. And I'll do the same.

You're wrong on grammar, wrong on usage, wrong on courtesy, and wrong when you frame the argument in a way that you mistakenly think is in your favor. I find it quite amazing that you're sticking to your guns on this one. If you are incapable of admitting a simple grammatical error ...

It's not a grammatical error. Aside from it being a proper noun, nouns are used together that way all the time. Have you ever been to a 'grocery store' or ridden a 'mountain bike'? Honestly, read your own links:

Using a noun as a modifier of another noun is not, strictly speaking, grammatically incorrect in modern English in the formation of a compound noun, e.g. "shoe store," "school bus," "peace movement," "Senate election," etc. Americans commonly speak of "the Iraq war" rather than "the Iraqi war."

Also, from your own links:

Luntz, who road-tested the adjectival use of “Democrat” with a focus group in 2001, has concluded that the only people who really dislike it are highly partisan adherents of the—how you say?—Democratic Party. “Those two letters actually do matter,” Luntz said the other day.

You seem to be the only backroomer upset by this issue, so read into it what you will. Who else would get so upset about someone slightly altering the name of a party other than the party faithful?

PS: Free to make up and use any silly names you can think of for Republicans, I won't mind.

[Spino]

If you're going to base your argument on proper nouns then you're still wrong. If the Dems choose to call themselves "Democratic," thus correctly mirroring the word's usage when placed as an adjective, who are you to amend them? What a person or group choose to call themselves is their business, surely, and not really the province of their sworn ideological foes.

You're wrong on grammar, wrong on usage, wrong on courtesy, and wrong when you frame the argument in a way that you mistakenly think is in your favor. I find it quite amazing that you're sticking to your guns on this one. If you are incapable of admitting a simple grammatical error ...

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I see Wikipedia has an entire article about your verbal tic.

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Found another article about your pet malapropism.

There’s no great mystery about the motives behind this deliberate misnaming. “Democrat Party” is a slur, or intended to be—a handy way to express contempt. Aesthetic judgments are subjective, of course, but “Democrat Party” is jarring verging on ugly. [...] “Democrat Party” is standard jargon on right-wing talk radio and common on winger Web sites like NewsMax.com, which blue-pencils Associated Press dispatches to de-“ic” references to the Party of F.D.R. and J.F.K. (The resulting impression that “Democrat Party” is O.K. with the A.P. is as phony as a North Korean travel brochure.) The respectable conservative journals of opinion sprinkle the phrase around their Web sites but go light on it in their print editions. William F. Buckley, Jr., the Miss Manners cum Dr. Johnson of modern conservatism, dealt with the question in a 2000 column in National Review, the magazine he had founded forty-five years before. “I have an aversion to ‘Democrat’ as an adjective,” Buckley began.

Dear Joe McCarthy used to do that, and received a rebuke from this at-the-time 24-year-old. It has the effect of injecting politics into language, and that should be avoided. Granted there are diffculties, as when one desires to describe a “democratic” politician, and is jolted by possible ambiguity. But English does that to us all the time, and it’s our job to get the correct meaning transmitted without contorting the language.

All this fuss over an innocent flub?!? I even went back and changed my original post! I think you got a wee bit carried away over this one... as in carried downstream, over the falls, through the rapids, out to sea and into the belly of one of the there sea serpents that prey on ships near the edge of the world...

[LittleGrizzly]

Obama's new definition of "bipartisanship" is "agreeing with us".

Isn't that every governments definition of bipartisanship ?

[Lemur]

All this fuss over an innocent flub?!?

Obviously, Spino dear, I'm not reacting to your transient slip, but rather to the dogged defenders of bad grammar and usage. It's one thing to make a simple mistake, and quite another to defend it no matter how obviously wrong it is.

Again, they can call themselves whatever they want. And I'll do the same.

Thus branding yourself as a man who disrespects the English language and has no manners to boot. Congratulations!

Honestly, read your own links:

I read them. Did you?

"Democrat Party is a political epithet used in the United States by some people instead of the name (or more precisely, the proper noun) Democratic Party."

"The use of the term is an attempt to separate the people that make up the party from the principle outlined in their name. It stems from the notion that a collection of Democrats is not necessarily a democratic collection. However, the moniker of 'Democrat' is derived from 'Democratic Party' and not vice-versa so the construction in this fashion is not proper."

"In August 2008, the Republican platform committee voted down a proposal to use the phrase 'Democrat Party' in the 2008 platform, deciding to use the proper 'Democratic Party'. 'We probably should use what the actual name is,' said Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour, the panel's chairman."

"Democratic Party, however, is a proper noun."

So you're placing your grammatical errors and ill-usage of the English language above the Republican party platform, and above the judgment of William F. Buckley, the founder of the magazine which you worship. From a man who might know a bit more about language and usage than you ever will:

I have an aversion to ‘Democrat’ as an adjective. Dear Joe McCarthy used to do that, and received a rebuke from this at-the-time 24-year-old. It has the effect of injecting politics into language, and that should be avoided.

So let's recap: You're wrong on points of grammar and (more importantly) usage, you're wrong on courtesy (since it is polite to call people and groups by their preferred name, unless there is some overriding reason to do otherwise), and the very links you point to demonstrate that your abuse of the language is a signature of extreme rightwing hacks.

And doubtless all of this will bounce off you like logic off a Communist, and you'll continue to doggedly assert that your neologism is fantastically correct, despite the fact that you have nothing, nothing to back your position up.

Tell you what, take it to PM if you want to continue defending your lost position. Or start a new thread if you really can't let it go.

PS: Free to make up and use any silly names you can think of for Republicans, I won't mind.

Typical authoritarian logic. "Oh, am I abusing the language? Well why don't you just abuse it in equal measure, and then we can all be brothers in disrespect and NewSpeak."