Classroom Application of EB (going live in a couple of months)

[Ludens]

If I'm not mistaken, General Cam is "turned on" just by hitting Delete and following your General unit; hence, you can stop doing so whenever you wish.

There is actually a setting in the options menu that sticks the camera close to the general. I tried to play with it, but it's very difficult. You have to position your general so that he has a good overview, or else you won't be able to control your flanks. You could off course turn over control of the army to the A.I., but because you cannot order the A.I. it will always mess up your battleplan, so I never do.

Edit: it's sounds like a very interesting idea, TA, although I am curious how much they will pick up. Let us know how it turns out. Sorry for spamming your topic.

[Rilder]

There is actually a setting in the options menu that sticks the camera close to the general. I tried to play with it, but it's very difficult. You have to position your general so that he has a good overview, or else you won't be able to control your flanks. You could off course turn over control of the army to the A.I., but because you cannot order the A.I. it will always mess up your battleplan, so I never do.

I can't remember but doesn't giving AI control still allow you to give commands?

Still wouldn't use it but still.

[Cyclops]

I can't remember but doesn't giving AI control still allow you to give commands?

Still wouldn't use it but still.

Yep, its like telling your boys to flee, they break but can be "un-broken" again.

I play with general cam on these days for flavour. You really have to think about position and sometimes the general sits on a hilltop for the whole battle directing traffic and can't get into the flanking charges, which I find delicous. If I want to get my hands bloody I run the risk of losing control of the battle which is a sweet little choice to be faced with.

With my current Sweboz campaign (230 BC and I'm about to descend on Roman Mediolanum) my generals sit front and square on the battle line so I can usually see the whole shebang. It was different as Lussotannan, they're a bit softer targets.

I haven't put units out of LOS on AI control yet, maybe I'll give it a whirl tonight. "Dammit, I told you to hold the flank, not countercharge!"

[artaxerxes]

Am I the only one thinking EB could revolutionize history lessons? I mean, that EB could be one of the first steps in the direction of making simulators of historical events that allow students to see the world exactly as it was at the time of the events? I mean, like a flight simulator, just for history students (I really shouldn't be making that remark, as I know immensely little of flight simulators, so don't know what I'm talking about, but whatever)

[Tiberius Claudius Marcellus]

Am I the only one thinking EB could revolutionize history lessons? I mean, that EB could be one of the first steps in the direction of making simulators of historical events that allow students to see the world exactly as it was at the time of the events? I mean, like a flight simulator, just for history students (I really shouldn't be making that remark, as I know immensely little of flight simulators, so don't know what I'm talking about, but whatever)

I don't think you're the only one at all who thinks like this (see all the comments above!). Simulators like this are already used on TV shows on this history channel. I may be mistaken; but I believe Vanilla RTW was used extensively for Roman-era battles.

Using EB or EB-like programs is just as accurate as using a flight simulator because they both lack complete realism. While you may be able to maneuver a plane technically correctly, and the gravity/physics engine may be damn near perfect, you'll still never have that feeling in the pit of your stomach when your plane starts to stall or the nerves that would be frazzled in real life attempting to put down a 747 loaded with fuel and 300 human lives in a huge thunderstorm with an engine gone. The same thing goes for the human element in the battles of EB or planning campaigns / doing diplomacy etc.

[mikil100]

I don't think you're the only one at all who thinks like this (see all the comments above!). Simulators like this are already used on TV shows on this history channel. I may be mistaken; but I believe Vanilla RTW was used extensively for Roman-era battles.

Using EB or EB-like programs is just as accurate as using a flight simulator because they both lack complete realism. While you may be able to maneuver a plane technically correctly, and the gravity/physics engine may be damn near perfect, you'll still never have that feeling in the pit of your stomach when your plane starts to stall or the nerves that would be frazzled in real life attempting to put down a 747 loaded with fuel and 300 human lives in a huge thunderstorm with an engine gone. The same thing goes for the human element in the battles of EB or planning campaigns / doing diplomacy etc.

Yeah, this history channel used RTW for simulating battles. I think it was modded, 'cause if I remember correctly the number of troops on the battlefield was amazingly large. I liked the show, but after re-watching it was more eye-candy than historical accuracy..

I think all TW games and their mods really put a arcade feel to ancient battles, definitely doesn't get the thought through that 5,000 men won't come back to their wives and children after a hard fought battle. EB is still by far the most immersive, though.

[C.LVCIANVS]

... Hoping that won't be an escamotage for playing EB at work, TK.
" 'Morning classroom... Today's test: 1v1 tournament, max 50k, rules: no art, max 2 ele, max 6 cav, max 4 missile, max 4 ho arc. The winner will pass the exam, the losers... Will pass under my yoke!

I remember when I was in high school... I & II gymnasium at classic licaeum, and my history teacher asked ME, a 14 years old boy, which mark I preferred to give myself in her subject... She didn't know if what I wrote in homeworks or class test was right or wrong...Quite confusing for me...

Years later I've understood how works the italian school system, so I stopped wasting my time and looked for a job. The grim reality...

Now, my 13 years old brother, 1,50m tall, still watching cartoons on Disney Channel (sometimes "Cheetah girls" too ) treats his teacher ironically about political europe's geography... What's the capital city of Hungary?

[Antinous]

Sorry buddy can't help you there. Try google.

[A Very Super Market]

You could replace the losing music cue with lots of people screaming...

So how does the Italian school system work? Or do you just mean it sucks?