OOC Thread and Chatroom

[navarro951]

well said. And my plan is to have a checks/balances system. The Princeps and the Promagistrate are simply renowned political members. They are equal in status for the most part. You cant deny the the fact that in Rome regardless of the senate, there was always men who said what was what due to sheer power and popularity. Pompeii and Caesar obviously being the best examples.

[The Celtic Viking]

well said. And my plan is to have a checks/balances system. The Princeps and the Promagistrate are simply renowned political members. They are equal in status for the most part. You cant deny the the fact that in Rome regardless of the senate, there was always men who said what was what due to sheer power and popularity. Pompeii and Caesar obviously being the best examples.

But they are not! They are not even near equals, the worst parts are:

Can prioritize a building/12 turns in any settlement, and can steal one retinue/12 turns
Owns one consular legion (what does the PIP have to do with consular legions anyway?)
Can veto one edict or amendment/session (hello!)
Can ban senators from the Curia
Can give the Provincial Governor to anyone he wishes, completely on his own whim
Can automatically take a consular position

How is that "equal in status for the most part"? We, as players, give out popularity to others and the ranks are there for power. There is no need to say "this one guy is popular and powerful, and even if everyone start hating him and join together to defeat him, he'll still be the most popular and powerful".

I say the first mentioned should go completely. Consular legions should obviously only belong to consuls. If anyone should be able to veto, it should be the Plebian tribune and the consuls. If anyone should be banned, it should be the decision of the whole senate, same with PGs. No one should be able to declare himself consul under any circumstances.

I'm disappointed Blasio didn't even care to acknowledge Regvlvs' existence, so I hope you will respond to me, TCV.

I certainly don't want the PIP to be "all-powerful" until we have legions/houses to put up a fight against him; but it will help the game flow faster and cause good RP debate / animosity/alliances if he can have slightly more powers than the average Senator - without being a Dictator

I think the two Consuls are perfect for that. The PIP/Heres are just unnecessary, people who wouldn't be there in-game if it wasn't for hardcoded limits anyway.

[navarro951]

I must apologize TCV, I did not mean to ignore IC or OOC, believe it or not i have come down with laryngitis and am in a state of healing.

But, I went ahead and made the edits to the Princeps powers that I meant to make after Blasio said he would but my RL sickness kept me away from the comp.

[SwissBarbar]

HONORS OF THE LEGIO II LATIUM

Date Legion Created:


Commander: Dux Caius Aurelius Cotta
1st Lieutenant: Tribunus Caius Aemilius Mamercus
2nd Lieutenant: Tribunus Aulus Aemilius Mamercus


Slain Officers:


Battles Fought:


Honors Awarded:


Dishonors Received:


Settlements Captured:

Tribunus Tiberius Claudius Marcellus, I very much appreciate your enthusiasm, but do Roman Armies have "Lieutenants" ?

I'd propose as following:

Commander: Dux Caius Aurelius Cotta
2nd in command: Tribunus Caius Aemilius Mamercus
3rd in command: Tribunus Aulus Aemilius Mamercus

[/Bean\]

[Tiberius Claudius Marcellus]

Tribunus Tiberius Claudius Marcellus, I very much appreciate your enthusiasm, but do Roman Armies have "Lieutenants" ?

Most likely absolutely not. I'll change them in a heartbeat.



Additionally, Legati, please go through the histories of your Legions (or delegate your Tribuni!) and PM me with:

• the year your Legion was created
• the locations /times of year /enemies of battles you fought and victory / defeat
• any cities your legions took/helped take
• Officer deaths
• Any awards you wish to give units / your General has won
• Any dishonors / punishments you wish to bestow on your armies
• anything else you think might be pertinent, or something you want incorporated

Thanks!

T. C. Marcellus

[The Celtic Viking]

I must apologize TCV, I did not mean to ignore IC or OOC, believe it or not i have come down with laryngitis and am in a state of healing.

But, I went ahead and made the edits to the Princeps powers that I meant to make after Blasio said he would but my RL sickness kept me away from the comp.

Good to know I wasn't just given an invisible hand, so to say, but sorry to hear that you're sick. I hope you get better soon.

I will still contend that you can't call them "near equals", though.

[Potocello]

wooo STEELERS!! (American football) any cardinals fans out there?

[navarro951]

haha hell no and ya GO STEELERS!!!

I finally am getting my voice back from being sick! Hooray!

ALSO: Just finished up the library so you guys can see all that news as well.

[navarro951]

I would ask that everyone have their SOTs updated by 2morrow. Any retraining needed, move requests, misc. That way we can get this attack on Epeiros done organized.

[Potocello]

mine should be all set, just remember before we go to war with Epeiros the Legio III has some rebels to take care of...

[navarro951]

o dont worry about being rushed. They dont even know were about to invade, and our first consular legion has to be built up.

[Potocello]

oh true true, i forgot about that, just don't want to be left behind =)

[Tiberius Claudius Marcellus]

I wanted to root for the Steelers since Detroit is my home town and Pittsburgh is really close; but when the Great Obamanation endorsed them I had to choose the Cards since they're from McCain's state.

[navarro951]

wouldnt think of letting happen, well need all the men we can get.

[/Bean\]

Legio III will be leaving later than the other two legions anyway

[everyone]

hi, since it seems that I am CoL again for the next 12 turns, I'll be doing more recruiting since another (larger) legion needs to be recruited. meanwhile I'll also be doing the usual retraining and stuff; but if any legion commanders needs their units retrained, please state it in your SOT post because I won't be moving any units around (because I can't) unless you allow me to

[everyone]

I was playing around with the savegame just now to check on the weird province behavior of Adrumeto/Byzacena mentioned previously.
(I forgot to turn off anti-aliasing when I was doing this so no screenshots)
it seems that when another faction (e.g. ours) took Adrumeto from the carthaginians, the region of Byzacena was still shown belonging to eleutheroi; however it is also displayed that the faction which conquered Adrumeto would own the region of Numidia (?!) instead, while the city in Numidia, Kirtan, still belongs to Eleutheroi.
so I also captured Kirtan to see what happened; which was nothing. the region of byzacena still appears as Eleutheroi controlled.
fortunately there was no CTD, so we could continue playing on and not worry that in the future we would never be able to destroy the carthies before our characters kill each other.

[Mooks]

hi, since it seems that I am CoL again for the next 12 turns, I'll be doing more recruiting since another (larger) legion needs to be recruited. meanwhile I'll also be doing the usual retraining and stuff; but if any legion commanders needs their units retrained, please state it in your SOT post because I won't be moving any units around (because I can't) unless you allow me to

Legio 3 wants its armour and weapons upgraded if they arent already.

and baen, why is legio III leaving later then everyone else?

[everyone]

I'm sure Legio III would get its units depleted after chasing the rebels and defeating them, so I'm expecting potocello to update his SOT to allow me to move his units so that I may retrain it; anyway, mooks you can't order where legio III goes or request what happens to it, only potocello (S.L. Longus) may.

and what? you mean _Bean_ has already notified everyone (but myself ) about the campaign?

[Mooks]

I'm sure Legio III would get its units depleted after chasing the rebels and defeating them, so I'm expecting potocello to update his SOT to allow me to move his units so that I may retrain it; anyway, mooks you can't order where legio III goes or request what happens to it, only potocello (S.L. Longus) may.

and what? you mean _Bean_ has already notified everyone (but myself ) about the campaign?

This is a OOC thread. I can request whatever the hell I want.

Please send Legio III to handle the egyptians along the nile. I request it.

[everyone]

very well, navarro please send Legio CLIV Eremos to scandinavia to conquer those Armenians in gawjam gotanoz, I think they are about to send a blockade to our holdings in Bartix after Legio III has conquered the nile from those Nile Crocodiles

[/Bean\]

Oh no not Bartix...

I will be releasing the campaign plan when it comes up in the Curia. No one knows the details yet. Your not being left out Everyone

[Potocello]

okay navarro, I updated the SOT post so you may retrain my units after we fight the rebels.

[navarro951]

okay navarro, I updated the SOT post so you may retrain my units after we fight the rebels.

okay thanks...but that would be everone can not me

[navarro951]

wow so, I am playing our game on my own save and have just finished taking all the Dux campaign targets plus Ambrakia in 260 and the money we will make, especially from Segestica,adds up to some 15k a season all together. It will give us money for two new legions and fund attacks on Carthage and Greece if necessary. I got Pyhrrus east of Dalminion with Blasio's Consular Legio and had a freaking glorious battle and cut him down.

[/Bean\]

We're optimistic then?

[navarro951]

Very much so! After we the campaign is finished it would be wise to just finish of the Epeiros. So we must then ask ourselves where to next? Greece may then be a good target but it would be wise not to border ourselves with the Arche as we cannot afford war with the games largest empire. Id say, finish off Epeiros, then head to Iberia. This is of course 6-8 years in the future were talking.

[/Bean\]

I dont think we should finish off anyone. It would completely wipe them from the game, stopping them from returning and becoming a threat in the future. We should extract a treaty from them, maybe even a couple of provinces, maybe return Makedonia to Makedonia and give Byzantion to KH. That would weaken them but not remove them. Its no fun if we just wipe out each faction.

[navarro951]

well im not saying were gonna wipe out everyone...just our enemies. Godfather