Who are you going to play as first?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

My first faction would be Sweden.
I will try to win the Great Northern War!

After that probably GBR or France.

[Meneldil]

I'll likely start out as France, or as the UK if we can switch to the 13 colonies midway through the game. In any case, I'll kick the British and their bad food out of the Americas !

[ClaymanVTW]

sorry but we can not play as america if it immerges, that's what the RtI is for.

[Meneldil]

Some mods made it possible to play with the Mongols/Timurids with vanilla M2TW without changing the starting date. I don't really see why CA wouldn't add such a feature, knowing that a large chunk of american customers would enjoy to play the 13 colonies in a Grand Campaign.

[ClaymanVTW]

Its allready been confirmed that no immerging factions (IE-USA) will be playable in the GC. Again thats what the RtI is for, and the 4th chapter the "test of time" will be a grand campaign starting from 1783.

[Megas Methuselah]

I will establish a great colonial empire as the Chippewa!

[bloodshed]

That sucks that you cant play as the 13 colonies in the grand campaign. Where does it say that you cant play as the immerging factions/ 13 colonies? I was just wondering. Also would it be possible to mod it so you could play as the 13 colonies in the GC. No disrespect to the RtI but I just dont want to fight against the British and some native Americans and maybe some mercs that the British have.

[ClaymanVTW]

As it is time for bed for me now i cant look up the article, but if i remember correctly it said somthing about u being able to play it in the GC, anfter u beat the RtI, and also the 4th chapter the "Test of Time" is just that itself, a grand campaign with all factions starting from 1783.

btw check these forums out guys. http://shoguntotalwar.yuku.com/directory.

[bloodshed]

So after you beat RtI it takes you to the GC so you can play as them right away?

[Familyguy1]

As it is time for bed for me now i cant look up the article, but if i remember correctly it said somthing about u being able to play it in the GC, anfter u beat the RtI, and also the 4th chapter the "Test of Time" is just that itself, a grand campaign with all factions starting from 1783.

btw check these forums out guys. http://shoguntotalwar.yuku.com/directory.

Couldnt we just mod them in?

[Fisherking]

I don’t know how much things have changed since the last time I answered this question?

At the time I said I was playing RTI first and then would try Sweden. I am not ruling that out but ships are so much fun. I will have to take that into consideration when I make up my mind. Sweden doesn’t have the need for ships that some have and the need can out-strip the desire in such cases.

I may go for someone a bit easier to play and who has a good navy from the start…if any such faction exists. We know how starting forces can be a pittance of what it should be.

Later on, much later on I fear, it would be so much fun to turn Bavaria into a world power with a mighty navy.

[Phog_of_War]

As much as I want to play as the 13 Colonies (yeah i know they are in the tutorial, but have they been confirmed in the Campaign at the start?) , honestly I will probably start as Spain. It is the safest starting position in the map and, there should be more than enough resources in the Iberian Pensula to exploit. And it has been mentioned before but most of Colonial Spain is in South America and fairly isolated. IMO, (depending on the unit roster) Spain is a great and for the most part, safe, first pick.

[Dead Guy]

Sweden :p

I just can't decide where to go first. Even if you decide to whoop the russians for a while, it seems contraproductive to go further on into the mainland. Perhaps I'll take the baltic shoreline and then push for peace. I think my first priority will be to secure the baltic, then we'll see who is messing with me at the time.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Well, I think 13 Colonies will not emerge all the time. I think it needs some conditions (bad governors etc) and then they will emerge. So, if I as UK, manage to keep everything in order in America then there is no need for the Colonies to revolt, right?

[Polemists]

To clear up the total war confusion on the 13 colonies.

There are TWO ways to play the 13 colonies.

Option ONE : Is you can play the Road to Independence Campaign, and when it ends you are in the grand campaign as the 13 colonies. Just as if you would have chosen them as a faction.


Option TWO: If you have unrest your faction will splinter, you can choose to join the rebels, or the loyalists. In the case of England, at sometime, the rebels will be the 13 colonies. You can choose to join them, and play as them from then on. So far, they are the only emergent faction that it is confirmed you can play (Example: No one has said if you can play as greece or ireland when they emerge.)

There are two types of Revolt, Capital revolts, which institute regime change if you lose, and emergent faction revolts. It is my best guess that if there is a rebellion in one of your colonies then it becomes a emergent faction, if it happens in your province, then it is a regieme change. Though no one knows for sure.


So for example if you have unrest in 13 colonies, they become the 13 colonies faction and go independent, where as if you have unrest in London, there is a revolt to push you closer to a republic.



No one is 100% sure

but we will be more sure

once we have

a

DEMO

[lenin96]

I agree Polemists, even if we can't play as Ireland or Scotland they should be able to be modded to be playable if the Americans are in the GC.

[pevergreen]

I know who you play as, but still it only acts as one, yeah the 1st chapter pretty much is but i still think there is a seperate campaign tutorial.

As noted, incorrect.

sorry but we can not play as america if it immerges, that's what the RtI is for.

Its allready been confirmed that no immerging factions (IE-USA) will be playable in the GC. Again thats what the RtI is for, and the 4th chapter the "test of time" will be a grand campaign starting from 1783.

As noted below, both incorrect.

Option TWO: If you have unrest your faction will splinter, you can choose to join the rebels, or the loyalists. In the case of England, at sometime, the rebels will be the 13 colonies. You can choose to join them, and play as them from then on. So far, they are the only emergent faction that it is confirmed you can play (Example: No one has said if you can play as greece or ireland when they emerge.)

Correct, confirmed and ready to rumble.

For my first relocation campaign. I'm thinking...Mughals to America.

[Sir Beane]

For my first relocation campaign. I'm thinking...Mughals to America.

I'm going to attempt to relocate Russia to somewhere like the Canary Islands or the Bahamas.

How would the faction famous for relying on the Winter and it's inexhaustible manpower fare on a tiny tropical island chain? I don't know, but I inted to find out!

[Polemists]

Yea you guys are welcome to correct me but if you find the IGN article, I believe it states that when England revolts there is a chance the 13 colonies may form, and you DO have the option to either continue playing as England or to start playing as the 13 colonies in the grand campaign.

This all depends on unrest though, as other players have pointed out. If you do want to play as america quickly it is best to start unrest early, because if you wait until 1770's the game's going to be nearing it's end by time you form.

Like I said,

The mechanics of revolts are not all that concreate but my best guess still remains that if a colony rebels, it becomes a emergent factions, aka: Greece, Ireland, etc. This is similiar to rebels in Rome given names, Gladiator Uprising , etc.

If your own faction revolts, then it pushes regieme change, and then you can choose to side with loyalist or rebels.


13 colonies is only known emergent faction you can play.


Thus is my knowledge thus far, just restating the facts from earlier, I believe this is all in the summary thread.


Of course it's all speculation until we get our hands on.


THE


DEMO

[Sir Beane]

Yea you guys are welcome to correct me but if you find the IGN article, I believe it states that when England revolts there is a chance the 13 colonies may form, and you DO have the option to either continue playing as England or to start playing as the 13 colonies in the grand campaign.

This all depends on unrest though, as other players have pointed out. If you do want to play as america quickly it is best to start unrest early, because if you wait until 1770's the game's going to be nearing it's end by time you form.

Like I said,

The mechanics of revolts are not all that concreate but my best guess still remains that if a colony rebels, it becomes a emergent factions, aka: Greece, Ireland, etc. This is similiar to rebels in Rome given names, Gladiator Uprising , etc.

If your own faction revolts, then it pushes regieme change, and then you can choose to side with loyalist or rebels.


13 colonies is only known emergent faction you can play.


Thus is my knowledge thus far, just restating the facts from earlier, I believe this is all in the summary thread.


Of course it's all speculation until we get our hands on.


THE


DEMO

It will probably still be speculation even after we see a demo, since CA aren't in the habit of including a portion of the campaign map with their demos.

[Polemists]

Way to crush my dreams beanie.


Actually no one knows about the demo, because so far our demos have always included either tutorial bits or historical battles, yet rumor is ETW has no historical battles.

Yet CA has been bound determined thus far to not give players just a custom battle in the demo.

So we may see something like part 1 of RTI you never know.



That said, whowever is in the DEMO

is who I will be playing first

[Sir Beane]

Way to crush my dreams beanie.


Actually no one knows about the demo, because so far our demos have always included either tutorial bits or historical battles, yet rumor is ETW has no historical battles.

Yet CA has been bound determined thus far to not give players just a custom battle in the demo.

So we may see something like part 1 of RTI you never know.



That said, whowever is in the DEMO

is who I will be playing first

Actually I think you might be on to something with the idea they will include part of the RTI campaign.

Maybe we will see the first part of the third chapter, the Battle of Bunker Hill?

[Polemists]

Assuming the the Battle of Bunker Hill?

Is basically the bare bone basics of defending, attacking, and etc on the battle map I don't see why not. I'd be similiar to the shogun tutorial in the Shogun Demo (yes folks, I go that far back in my demo crazes).

Obviously we'd be playing 13 colonies against the british, and it may not be moddable as it's scripted.

Still I am interested to see the minutemen units against the cannons of england.

[ainamacil]

It's gotta be the 13 Colonies. I've been an England player through two Medievals (the only campaign I've played where England was an option and I didn't play them the first time through was the Britannia Campaign, where I conquered all with the Green fist of my Irish forefathers), but now it's time to play the armies of my own country.

Huzzah!

[bloodshed]

Has it been confirmed that the only way you could play as the 13 colonies in the GC is by a revolt. Or when you beat the RtI it takes you to the campaign? The Treaty of Paris was signed in 1783 isnt the game only from 1700-1799 so when you finish RtI you would only have like 30 something turns to conquer everything your suppose to? Im just confused lol.

[Fisherking]

Has it been confirmed that the only way you could play as the 13 colonies in the GC is by a revolt. Or when you beat the RtI it takes you to the campaign? The Treaty of Paris was signed in 1783 isnt the game only from 1700-1799 so when you finish RtI you would only have like 30 something turns to conquer everything your suppose to? Im just confused lol.

From what is known that is just the way it is.

Disappointing I know for some of us. That extra 20 years would have be great. But as it stands I just don’t see anyone winning as the US unless you can get them to revolt by 1720 or so.

[lobosrul]

It sure seems to me like they're planning on a Napoleonic/War of 1812 expansion if the game is really going to be cut off at 1799.

I'm planning on play RTI first as a sort of advanced tutorial, then spend the bulk of my playing time on England like I always do. Then probably France, Russia and then maybe Sweden or Austria.

[ArtillerySmoke]

Probably France. Probably...I need to see the final unit rosters first.

[KozaK13]

Comon Prussia! A united Germany is a strong Germany...

And wow the amount of people who still ask about the playability of the 13 colonies despite the number of times it has been answered is staggering.

[bscssc]

Probably RTI to start, then UP (Dutch). I'd like to start colonizing India right away, and the UP control Sri Lanka.