Gaza again

[Don Corleone]

Don, I was curious when I read this, so I ran a text search on the entire thread, looking for "objective," "bias" and "unbiased." The only place those words were used was in your post. Could you clarify what you're referencing, please?

I opened a thread about a week ago, asking people why we dance this dance, and simultaneously asking people which side of the dance hall they stand on.

A whole bunch of people responded they had no partiality on the matter, but yet somehow, in their posts, Hamas is always right, the IDF is always wrong.

I admit to being partial to one side. Laugh at me for admitting if you care to, ridicule me for asking you your admitted stance, but don't insult my intelligence by claiming you don't have one. (Not you personally, speaking to the group as a whole).

[Lemur]

I get it, Don, thanks for the assist. I didn't read the earlier Gaza thread, so I was in the dark.

Personally, my feelings about the Israelis and the Palestinians could be best summed up by Lt. Ellen Ripley: "I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."

If we're not allowed to nuke the holy land, I say we forcibly move all of the Israelis and Palestinians to North and South Dakota, respectively, and we give Greater Israel to the Navajo. That would work, too.

[Husar]

A whole bunch of people responded they had no partiality on the matter, but yet somehow, in their posts, Hamas is always right, the IDF is always wrong.

Hamas isn't right and I do not have much sympathy for them, those rocket attacks are despicable and I said so before, maybe while you were away, I'm not supporting Hamas and their rocket attacks but like Banquo I do not believe they have a lot of control over their region, those rockets are home-made and they don't come from some conveyor belt from Hamas Rockets Inc. The way it looks some random nutter could set up one of those and fire them into the general direction of city xyz. That doesn't mean Hamas didn't do it but then even through a ceasefire the Palestinians are in a state of occupation, which gives their nutters an excuse to kill innocent people and that gives the israeli nutters an excuse to kill even more innocent people, that gives the palestinian nutters an excuse to kill more innocent people which...yes, obviously retaliation will lead us...somewhere like to even-more-retaliation-land.
That I want Israel to stop the violence first may be because I hope that they might be the slightly more reasonable nutters or even have more moderates due to their relative wealth and prosperity(poor people are more likely to be desperate and violent) and could actually start such a peace process. I do however refuse to say I side with Israel because right now they still behave like nutters who keep participating in this circle of violence, just like whoever fired those rockets.

My hopes that it will ever end are relatively low because in that region saying "ok, we take this and will give you a bit more freedom to make you happy" is seen as weakness by almost everybody which IMO is just retarded and causes this whole mess in the first place, but hey, gotta be a real man etc. blablabla.