Gaza again

[Tribesman]

answer the question.

Ask a sensible question .
Or could you really imagine the scenario where reaching agreement will by magic increase the numbers of radicals and their support base instead of reducing it ?

[Hooahguy]

Ask a sensible question .
Or could you really imagine the scenario where reaching agreement will by magic increase the numbers of radicals and their support base instead of reducing it ?

i repeat, answer my perfectly sensible question.

if you want i will ask others in this forum and ask them if its a sensible question. then we will see.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

i repeat, answer my perfectly sensible question.

if you want i will ask others in this forum and ask them if its a sensible question. then we will see.

Actually he did answer it.

Tribesman asserted that the "strong" efforts made by the IDF in Gaza and Lebanon made no lasting impact on the terrorist organizations they were attempting to degrade, despite claims of success on a superficial level. He asserts that this shows inherent "weakness" in that Israel, while trying to demonstrate power and resolve, displayed an inability to critically damage their chosen targets.

By extension, he's suggesting that military force is doomed to failure in this context and that Israel needs to negotiate with Hamas, Hezbollah and the other groups, or more probably with the nation-states that underwrite them, and then stick to the deal as written even though some of the real fringers will kill Israelis regardless of any settlement agreement.

Mind you, it would have been kinder if he'd explained the comment rather than zinging in the tagline and moving on, but I suspect he enjoys leaving you confused and frustrated.

[Hooahguy]

Actually he did answer it.

Tribesman asserted that the "strong" efforts made by the IDF in Gaza and Lebanon made no lasting impact on the terrorist organizations they were attempting to degrade, despite claims of success on a superficial level. He asserts that this shows inherent "weakness" in that Israel, while trying to demonstrate power and resolve, displayed an inability to critically damage their chosen targets.

By extension, he's suggesting that military force is doomed to failure in this context and that Israel needs to negotiate with Hamas, Hezbollah and the other groups, or more probably with the nation-states that underwrite them, and then stick to the deal as written even though some of the real fringers will kill Israelis regardless of any settlement agreement.

Mind you, it would have been kinder if he'd explained the comment rather than zinging in the tagline and moving on, but I suspect he enjoys leaving you confused and frustrated.

Seamus, i asked him what he would do, if negotiation nor military force worked, to reduce the radicals.

also, asking the israelis to not do anything while israelis are dying is absurd. the politicians who werent doing anything would be voted out really quickly, and replaced with those who would act.

[Tribesman]

Oh looky replaced with those who would act.
By that you mean those that would use military strikes instead of negotiating
Well done Hooah , you see that the use of violence against the population makes the population more radical and turn to the more extreme groups .
oh sorry , the problem is that you can see it but don't actually see it .

I suspect he enjoys leaving you confused and frustrated.

Hey from what has been written here I thought that was his natural state

[Hooahguy]

Oh looky replaced with those who would act.
By that you mean those that would use military strikes instead of negotiating
Well done Hooah , you see that the use of violence against the population makes the population more radical and turn to the more extreme groups .

no, not that. you may not agree now, but if there were terrorist attacks in your area, you would demand your government to do something.
when i said replaced with those who would act i was referring to Seamus's post, on Israel sticking to the deal as written even though the radicals will kill Israelis regardless of any settlement agreement.
in this case, diplomacy hasnt worked. israelis are still dying (in this case) and that is not acceptable.

but you still haven't answered my question:
if diplomacy and military fails, what would you do?