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    What I think he fails to consider is that his proposed solution has been attempted at various points in the 70s, the 80s, and the 90s, and each and every time, Israel's foes have used such period of magnamity to redouble the efforts against them.
    No Don , each time since the 73 war that Israel has tried the military option it has failed miserably , yet each time some rather painful negotiations have resulted in a bi-lateral agreement it has worked out better for them .

    standard israeli procedure for when militants hide behind kids is to brng in a sniper, to try to take out the terrorist behind them.
    Is it really ? Evidence would suggest that the standard proceedure is to bring in a tank and use them nice little special flechette munitions to clear a path to identify any possible miltant after the crowd has been flattened into a bloody mess .

    80%.
    Hold on there Rythmic , that poll of Hamas supporters carried out by the Israelis only said just over 75% not 80% but that does mean that Hooah with his "25%" has managed to get the survey completely arsewise .

    I am kinda confused on how people believe that diplomacy has always worked?
    Well thats a hard one , can you find a similar guerilla war where it hasn't had to be solved by diplomacy ?
    Yes there are lots that come up with short terms swings...... that turn into roundabouts and put them back where they started , but can you think of any long term ones ?

    Well I must say Hooah you have shocked me with your ....
    but i will say that if Avigdor Lieberman is elected, it will be a disaster.
    ... that perhaps after all you can sometimes think beyond the "I support Israel" or "I support the pally" lines .
    What a pleasant surprise

    I think it's time to put this guy on my ignore list
    Is that a promise ? please say it is so little child

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman View Post
    Well thats a hard one , can you find a similar guerilla war where it hasn't had to be solved by diplomacy ?
    Well plenty in fact including the one where the name guerilla comes from, but this isn't a guerilla war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman View Post
    No Don , each time since the 73 war that Israel has tried the military option it has failed miserably , yet each time some rather painful negotiations have resulted in a bi-lateral agreement it has worked out better for them .


    Is it really ? Evidence would suggest that the standard proceedure is to bring in a tank and use them nice little special flechette munitions to clear a path to identify any possible miltant after the crowd has been flattened into a bloody mess .


    Hold on there Rythmic , that poll of Hamas supporters carried out by the Israelis only said just over 75% not 80% but that does mean that Hooah with his "25%" has managed to get the survey completely arsewise .


    Well thats a hard one , can you find a similar guerilla war where it hasn't had to be solved by diplomacy ?
    Yes there are lots that come up with short terms swings...... that turn into roundabouts and put them back where they started , but can you think of any long term ones ?

    Well I must say Hooah you have shocked me with your ....

    ... that perhaps after all you can sometimes think beyond the "I support Israel" or "I support the pally" lines .
    What a pleasant surprise


    Is that a promise ? please say it is so little child


    So diplomacy will work in this case?


    Is that a promise, Tribesboy? Yes it is, since it seems you act more like a 10 year old then your old age .



    Offically on my ignore list

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    Well plenty in fact including the one where the name guerilla comes from, but this isn't a guerilla war.
    To which do you refer Frag , the Latin or the German origin?
    If it the Latin then you are bolloxed because the occupiers lost militarily and then lost pretty badly sitting at a table after their weakness had been fully exposed .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman View Post
    because the occupiers lost militarily and then lost pretty badly sitting at a table after their weakness had been fully exposed .
    You aren't exactly schooled in Roman history are you

    edit, I forgot, the term guerilla comes from the Boney era, Spain. Somewhat later then Rome.
    Last edited by Fragony; 02-04-2009 at 19:30.

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    You aren't exactly schooled in Roman history are you
    Is that because I mentioned the Latin version which was many hundreds of years after the Romans?
    Though the same was true for the Romans in the long term if you go for the germanic origin of the word .

    edit, I forgot,
    Yes indeed , but it matters not because both origins show the flaws of your attempted arguement
    Last edited by Tribesman; 02-04-2009 at 19:37.

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    OK, enough.

    The topic will be put to sleep while I hand out the warning points and I don't want to see another Israel/Palestine thread for at least a week. The next one had better be civil or punishments will be swift and unannounced.

    Thank you to those that found the time and balance to post interesting thoughts.

    Last edited by Banquo's Ghost; 02-04-2009 at 19:46.
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