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    Default Re: Who were the roman republic's worst enemies?

    Rome's worst enemy was, without a doubt, Rome itself.

    The so-called "barbarian invasions" that lead to the utter demise of the [Western] Roman Empire were only a coup de grace delivered to a dying and decaying empire.
    To settle the deal between Romans and Greeks once and for all... both Italy and Greece are in deep s*** at the moment. Do you really think who had the biggest spear in antiquity makes any difference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burebista View Post
    Rome's worst enemy was, without a doubt, Rome itself.

    The so-called "barbarian invasions" that lead to the utter demise of the [Western] Roman Empire were only a coup de grace delivered to a dying and decaying empire.
    I agree. But i want to point out that many historians says there was no fall of Roman Empire only a change. The date of the fall is also hugely controversial. Other then that hundreds of of internal and external factors cause the fall of the greatset empire ever. Nevertheless it stood until 1453, being the western civilization it´s legacy.

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    So, what would you put ingame as hypothetical triple alliance against Rome (meaning powers that would not consider fighting each other before the romans are destroyed)? Please consider that there is nor Epirus or Numidia in XGM and by Gauls I mean the XGM equivalent of the Aedui.

    Here are some possible choices:

    Carthage - Gauls - Germans
    Carthage - Gauls - Iberians
    Carthage - Gauls - Pontus
    Carthage - Gauls - Parthia
    Carthage - Gauls - one of the Diadochii
    Carthage - Pontus - Parthia (even though this would mean goodbye AI Seleucids)
    Carthage - Macedonia - Seleucids (this actually is a plausible choice as these powers had good relationships to each other, practically allies imho)
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    Default Re: Who were the roman republic's worst enemies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zarax View Post
    Carthage - Gauls - one of the Diadochii


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    I would go for : "Carthage - Gauls - Pontus".

    But for game playing reasons "Carthage - Gauls - one of the Diadochii" might be better.
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    Well, Pontus is one half-diadochii anyway, their roster is right there.
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    Default Re: Who were the roman republic's worst enemies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zarax View Post
    So, what would you put ingame as hypothetical triple alliance against Rome (meaning powers that would not consider fighting each other before the romans are destroyed)? Please consider that there is nor Epirus or Numidia in XGM and by Gauls I mean the XGM equivalent of the Aedui.

    Here are some possible choices:

    Carthage - Gauls - Germans
    Carthage - Gauls - Iberians
    Carthage - Gauls - Pontus
    Carthage - Gauls - Parthia
    Carthage - Gauls - one of the Diadochii
    Carthage - Pontus - Parthia (even though this would mean goodbye AI Seleucids)
    Carthage - Macedonia - Seleucids (this actually is a plausible choice as these powers had good relationships to each other, practically allies imho)
    Carthage - Macedonia - Seleucids seems the most plausible choice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucio Domicio Aureliano View Post
    I agree. But i want to point out that many historians says there was no fall of Roman Empire only a change. The date of the fall is also hugely controversial. Other then that hundreds of of internal and external factors cause the fall of the greatset empire ever. Nevertheless it stood until 1453, being the western civilization it´s legacy.
    There was a fall. Western communications and trade collapsed.
    Also, technically the empire didn't properly fall until the death of the Czar of russia, Depending on how you measure the empire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cbvani View Post
    There was a fall. Western communications and trade collapsed.


    I do believe there was a fall but i´m just pointing out that there´re some who believe it did not fall or that the correct date is not 476. As for communication and trade, i think we can agree that at 476 the situation was extremely poor, in fact sea trade was completely controled by the Vandals.

    Also, technically the empire didn't properly fall until the death of the Czar of russia, Depending on how you measure the empire.
    You´re right about this. My apologies

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cbvani View Post
    There was a fall. Western communications and trade collapsed.
    Also, technically the empire didn't properly fall until the death of the Czar of russia, Depending on how you measure the empire.
    I do believe there was a fall but i´m just pointing out that there´re some who believe it did not fall or that the correct date is not 476. As for communication and trade, i think we can agree that at 476 the situation was extremely poor, in fact sea trade was completely controled by the Vandals.

    As for the Czar of russia.
    You´re right, my apologies

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    Default Re: Who were the roman republic's worst enemies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cbvani View Post
    ...Also, technically the empire didn't properly fall until the death of the Czar of russia, Depending on how you measure the empire.
    You mean Czar Simeon II of Bulgaria if we're to get technical.
    To settle the deal between Romans and Greeks once and for all... both Italy and Greece are in deep s*** at the moment. Do you really think who had the biggest spear in antiquity makes any difference?

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