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    I read somewhere that a lot of Sunnis were still boycotting the process, which is a shame if true. They really need to get engaged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
    I read somewhere that a lot of Sunnis were still boycotting the process, which is a shame if true. They really need to get engaged.
    Here's a link to the alledged fraud. The relative non-violence was definitely encouraging. Let's hope that this positive sign are a harbinger of better days for the Iraqi people.
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    It's what I've said all along. There was no need for an invasion, we should've supported a revolution. It would've succeeded. Saddam was weak.

    North Korea is the place we should invade....
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    Encouraging start, particularly the bit about everyone not shooting each other up over their differences. Hope it continues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    It's what I've said all along. There was no need for an invasion, we should've supported a revolution. It would've succeeded. Saddam was weak.

    North Korea is the place we should invade....
    Saddam was not "weak". He was a iron fisted dictator that was able to hold on to his country and keep it more stable then we ever will for many years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooks View Post
    Saddam was not "weak". He was a iron fisted dictator that was able to hold on to his country and keep it more stable then we ever will for many years.
    Saddam was dying. And no, he was not able to pacify his entire country.

    He was a starving iron fist dictator desperatly trying to avoid the inevitable. His military was rusting, his economy in ruins. His lying advisor's kept him from seeing the reality of the situation, he was living in a bubble. A revolution, funded and supported by the rest of the world would've broken him. In the invasion, Saddam's forces collapsed almost immediately, and so did his infrastructure. What we're fighting now are the very forces who would've brought him down in a revolution.

    In the first half of his reign, you would've been correct, a revolution would've failed. After the nineties, there was barely any Saddam left, his country was upheld by old habits, not his control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    It's what I've said all along. There was no need for an invasion, we should've supported a revolution. It would've succeeded. Saddam was weak.

    North Korea is the place we should invade....
    Oh come on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir View Post
    Oh come on.

    Who is we? It is certainly not you.
    Actually, I still have 23 years left until I'm permanently retired as a soldier, so in theory, yes, it is.
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    The main problem i have with your saddam overthrow idea is that after we abandoned them in the first gulf war why would they take the chance and rebel again, Saddam slammed his iron fist down and we never helped them, why should they have trusted us ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Actually, I still have 23 years left until I'm permanently retired as a soldier, so in theory, yes, it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Actually, I still have 23 years left until I'm permanently retired as a soldier, so in theory, yes, it is.
    Theory? Well everything is fine then. I'm glad you've become a Neoconservative and will join our efforts at nation-building and spreading Western values.

    I'm also glad your military service has given you the opinion that it's only acceptable to support the wars you think are right. The time for open warfare in Korea is over. I don't care how strong their nuclear deterrent is, the still have the technology and the means to deliver it. The humanatarian suffering in Iraq would be nothing compared to that in Korea.

    Let's finish up the jobs in the desert and mountains before we go raiding the coast again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir View Post
    Theory? Well everything is fine then. I'm glad you've become a Neoconservative and will join our efforts at nation-building and spreading Western values.

    I'm also glad your military service has given you the opinion that it's only acceptable to support the wars you think are right. The time for open warfare in Korea is over. I don't care how strong their nuclear deterrent is, the still have the technology and the means to deliver it. The humanatarian suffering in Iraq would be nothing compared to that in Korea.

    Let's finish up the jobs in the desert and mountains before we go raiding the coast again.
    Wait. Didn't Bush invade Iraq because of nukes? Doesn't N. Korea have nukes?

    The only problem with such a war would be S. Korea. Cause Japan is hardly hittable, having one of the best NMD's in the world. It would be a long while before a missile flew across the Pacific to the USA without interception. Problem is S. Korea which would be the only viable target, and the capital would be crushed without the need for any nuclear weaponry. It is in range of N.Korea's artillery, which would level the capital upon the declaration of war. So, N. Korea really can't do much with the nukes except threaten the USA and gain leverage for international deals.
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    I'm also glad your military service has given you the opinion that it's only acceptable to support the wars you think are right.

    So are you saying HoreTore should support all wars regardless of whether he thinks they are right or not ?

    Wait. Didn't Bush invade Iraq because of nukes?

    No, Weapons of Mass Destuction, a wide ranging title that includes plenty of things you certainly wouldn't think of as mass destruction, they certaintly hinted at a nuke to the public though, far too smart to come out and say saddam has nukes... far easier to subconcuisly slip it into the public's mind...

    The only problem with such a war would be S. Korea. Cause Japan is hardly hittable, having one of the best NMD's in the world. It would be a long while before a missile flew across the Pacific to the USA without interception. Problem is S. Korea which would be the only viable target, and the capital would be crushed without the need for any nuclear weaponry. It is in range of N.Korea's artillery, which would level the capital upon the declaration of war. So, N. Korea really can't do much with the nukes except threaten the USA and gain leverage for international deals.


    I don't think Japan has the ability to defend against nuclear missles... US missle defence shield is not yet fully operational i think...?

    I think the nukes give them the ability to have something in reserve after levelling seoul, once you use nuclear weapons there is no turning back, even a pyhsco like kim nows thats...
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Actually, I still have 23 years left until I'm permanently retired as a soldier, so in theory, yes, it is.
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