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    RIP Tosa, my trolling end now Senior Member Devastatin Dave's Avatar
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    Thanks BG, I feel a little safer now knowing that there is an attempt to keep this information from our Manchurian President. Now that's Hope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave View Post
    Thanks BG, I feel a little safer now knowing that there is an attempt to keep this information from our Manchurian President. Now that's Hope.
    Yes - damn that Constitutional command over the intelligence services to hell!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountArach View Post
    Yes - damn that Constitutional command over the intelligence services to hell!
    I wouldn't trust the safety of a freshly laid steaming , much less this nations security. I'm not suicidal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave View Post
    I wouldn't trust the safety of a freshly laid steaming , much less this nations security. I'm not suicidal.
    Then leave!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountArach View Post
    Then leave!
    I thought about moving to Australia, but your government is too busy roasting its own citizens in the name of being Green. Also, according to many of you and Grand Harpy Herself, Hillary Clinton, dessent is patriotic. So I'm just being patriotic when I oppose my insurgent leader.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave View Post
    So I'm just being patriotic when I oppose my insurgent leader.
    Rush Limbaugh?
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    So it was a letter from the detainee? My understanding was the all detainee communications leaving the camp was screened. Obama has the authority to learn everything he wants to about these matters and if he doesn't, it's by his own decision.

    The Obama administration seems intent on keeping the state secrets policy of the Bush administration, contrary to campaign promises and much to the chagrin of the ACLU. I love the attempts to let Obama off the hook as not knowing anything about it, but that just doesn't fly once you're president.

    Quote Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost
    A man who has been shipped by "rendition" to some of the nastiest regimes in the world for torture described in the letter to President Obama as "mediaeval".
    Are any of his claims substantiated by anything aside from his own statements? I'm highly skeptical of many of his claims, like going to Afghanistan -opium capitol of the world- to beat his drug problem. He was held for most of his time at Gitmo in the super-maximum security section. Only a small minority of the total population was put there, and it wasn't for being model citizens....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiahou View Post
    Are any of his claims substantiated by anything aside from his own statements? I'm highly skeptical of many of his claims, like going to Afghanistan -opium capitol of the world- to beat his drug problem. He was held for most of his time at Gitmo in the super-maximum security section. Only a small minority of the total population was put there, and it wasn't for being model citizens....
    Come on, this is BG for God's sakes he'd never let his own biases and political leanings distort the truth!!!
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    That is an awful lot of redacting:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost
    Is it remotely acceptable that evidence of such barbarism is not only hidden behind a cloak of "national security" dissimulation, but from the president as well?
    I wouldn't bet on it's being "hidden... from the president", despite the charity's lawyers' assumption of the same in their memo.
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