some random questions about kings,princes, and princesses.

**chris34au** · 02-14-2009, 02:22

thanks. i knew about the governor's acumen effecting their provinces but i wasn't really sure where the king's acumen came into play. i think i'm just going to try to forget about worrying about the acumen of heirs. if an heir ends up becoming a king with only 1-2 plumes of acumen, it sounds like having governors with 4-5 plumes of acumen will compensate for the king.

**Ironside** · 02-14-2009, 10:15

Originally Posted by chris34au

thanks. i knew about the governor's acumen effecting their provinces but i wasn't really sure where the king's acumen came into play. i think i'm just going to try to forget about worrying about the acumen of heirs. if an heir ends up becoming a king with only 1-2 plumes of acumen, it sounds like having governors with 4-5 plumes of acumen will compensate for the king.

Getting the acumen up is the hardest stat to groom, there's basically two ways to drive them up. Breeding with acumen as the main stat (that means maxing out influence, something that's hard while turtling) or failed assassination attemts. There's four lines of v&v for that, one gives up to +2 to acumen, while another gives negative acumen. So playing without reload you'll get +1 acumen every 4 generations on average...

The advantage is that all those former hiers will have atleast 6+ acumen, making them great governors.

**Youngie** · 02-14-2009, 16:46

Im also a fan of Drones tactic's. It is imperative to get your heir's having good stats at a young age. They will become better kings and produce better heirs.

Princesses are a tricky one with me. I use to never even bother to use them. Unless i had a rotten prince who was soon to be a vunerable king. Then some forced incest was in order to increase his proberbility of being exposed. Knowerdays i marry them off in the hope that one day the allied lands will fall into my hands if ever they lose their lineage. this is rare i know, but a man can still dream

**Fagar** · 02-15-2009, 22:33

Knowerdays i marry them off in the hope that one day the allied lands will fall into my hands if ever they lose their lineage. this is rare i know, but a man can still dream[/QUOTE]

That is something I have wondered at from time to time.
I have never received allies lands when their line has died out.
I knew it was stated when you married off your princesses but it doesn't seem to happen. How often if ever does this happen to other people?
I have experienced it occassionally in STW just not in MTW.

**chris34au** · 02-16-2009, 04:30

Originally Posted by Fagar

Knowerdays i marry them off in the hope that one day the allied lands will fall into my hands if ever they lose their lineage. this is rare i know, but a man can still dream

That is something I have wondered at from time to time.
I have never received allies lands when their line has died out.
I knew it was stated when you married off your princesses but it doesn't seem to happen. How often if ever does this happen to other people?
I have experienced it occassionally in STW just not in MTW.[/QUOTE]

when i was playing a Bohemian campaign, i ended up with Aragon that way but that's the only time that it's happened for me and i almost always get my princesses married before they become old maids.

**Scurvy** · 02-16-2009, 07:52

Its never happened to me, I just marry Princesses off to my best generals to add loyalty

I tend to let the royal line sort itself out, its fun to have really bad monarchs, especially as they can be blamed for my mistakes....

**caravel** · 02-16-2009, 11:20

It occurs more often in STW, but that was based on alliances alone I believe. In MTW keeping taxes low may help. I'm not sure of exactly how it works, but I think the faction in question has to die out while one of it's princesses is married to your own faction leader. I don't think princes count. As soon as the faction dies out, you should set taxes to as low as possible throughout the land and hope for the best. The chances of them joining your faction is based on your provincial happiness.

**Geezer57** · 02-16-2009, 18:53

Originally Posted by Youngie

i marry them off in the hope that one day the allied lands will fall into my hands if ever they lose their lineage. this is rare i know, but a man can still dream

You'll only inherit allied lands if it's one of their Princesses that marries your Prince or Ruler - getting one of your Princesses hitched to a foreigner does no good for this purpose. I use Princesses rather to boost the loyalty of my better Generals - but only after they've had a long career in diplomacy and are getting close to spinsterhood.

**Fagar** · 02-16-2009, 22:11

Cheers for all the replies, it did clear up that aspect.
I always agree to marry foreign princesses if they are offered so I guess it is just a matter of luck and timing.

**caravel** · 02-16-2009, 23:12

There is no reason not to accept foreign brides. The possibility of the AI gaining your lands if you're wiped out is hardly a factor is it?

When it comes to your own princesses I'm with Geezer57 - they are much more useful married to your generals. If you have one too many, then perhaps marry her into a smaller faction at the right time. But the chances of gaining lands are slim. Marrying them off to your generals is the best policy because if your royal line is destroyed, you may be lucky enough to get a civil war with the royal blooded generals vying for control of the faction. Also it's fairly obvious that marrying them to your general will improve his loyalty.