The Godfather, Part 3 [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

Oh, the Wine in front of me.

I will slap myself for this. I have said, repeatedly, never to vote yourself when you are innocent unless you have a very good reason. And I'm almost certain TevashSzat is a scumbag.

However. I am certain I could be wrong. And I am certain I am a non-role townie. As such, my role is to be a selfless soldier, defending town from anyone, and anything.

Including myself.



Face facts: You would not have voted Tevash over me. And this is no gambit, I frankly don't expect you to believe that this proves me to be a townie. I don't care.

What I care about is that you win the game, whatever the cost. I offered you my head, and now you shall have it.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Well, hypothetically, as mafia I could be dumb. Other than that, I'd kill you if you'd hidden a detective result in your posts that pointed to me or my buddies. But we can't find it...can you at least say if there IS something encoded in those 5 posts? Something to do with capital letters maybe?

[seireikhaan]

Nothing's hidden.

[Reenk Roink]

Please blast this at the execution.

Sorry Atpg, just trying to lighten the mood.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Tevash and Reenk are most likely scum. I believe Shlin28 needs to be de-throned in a manner most unpleasant as well.

Remember this voting round, and who behaved in what manner. TevashSzat will begin convincing you my supporters, or those on the sidelines, are scumbags.

Tevash will clear everyone who supported him.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Okay, to be totally honest I have no idea what ATPG's desired lynch method is. If somebody could remind me within the next couple of minutes that'd be great.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Beaten to death with rubber chickens.

[shlin28]

That is so much better than my planned execution!

[Askthepizzaguy]

So, tell me fellows, ye supporters of TevashSzat:

Explain what motives one might have for spending as much time on the game as I have so far, only to be the deciding vote on myself. The deciding vote on Lord Winter. The way I spared my top suspect for another round, as you refused to do. There are only two options: I was a henchman, or I was town the whole time.

So, that means I must have personally destroyed two mafia, as a mafia, leaving only the Godfather remaining. Brilliant move. On the other hand, since I am a townie and always was, what motives might I have had for allowing TevashSzat his time to investigate? On the off chance I am wrong, he needs to live, for one. Mafia will kill him if he's a townie, or if he's not the Godfather and there was another henchman still alive. Secondly, I seriously doubt he will survive the game, so my wish that he dies will be fulfilled.

I will be ever so pleased when you decide to join me in the afterlife. In the end, I made the selfless move that allowed for the possibility that I could be wrong. So any mistakes I have made, all game, have now been wiped clean, and you have mafia running scared.



Enjoy the rest of the game. By the way, just why were my suspects sweating so much?

FoS: Reenk Roink, TevashSzat, Shlin28, Sasaki Kojiro. Among these, you will find your mafia.

I am off to enjoy my date with my girlfriend now. Have fun!

[GeneralHankerchief]

Day 5

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah "tie vote" blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah much finger-pointing, yelling, and screaming blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah TevashSzat stepped forward and declared he was the Detective blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah Chief of Police shlin28 called an end blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

Blah blah blah blah blah "Askthepizzaguy, you're guilty. Get up here." blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

Askthepizzaguy came up and gave his final execution speech, which was as follows:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

"Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah."

*inhale*

*exhale*

*inhale*

"Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah."

By this point everyone had fallen asleep, and sadly not even ATPG's screams of terror as he was beaten to death by rubber chickens could rouse the crowd. shlin, disgusted, kicked everybody in the crowd and told everybody to go home.

Day 5a tally:

Askthepizzaguy: 8 (Sasaki Kojiro, Reenk Roink, White_eyes:D, TevashSzat, Beefy187, Seamus Fermanagh, Andres, Askthepizzaguy)
TevashSzat: 6 (Ignoramus, taka, Psychonaut, YLC, Chaotix27, glyphz)

Abstained: 4 (shlin28, Gaius Scribonius Curio, 777Ares777, Quintus.JC)
Didn't vote: 1 (LittleGrizzly)

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Still alive: (18)
shlin28
YLC
777Ares777
Andres
TevashSzat
Quintus.JC
Rythmic
White_eyes:D
Chaotix27
Reenk Roink
glyphz
187Beefyz
taka
Seamus Fermanagh
LittleGrizzly
Gaius Scribonius Curio
Ignoramus
Sasaki Kojiro

Killed:
Tratorix
CountArach
seireikhaan
boudica
TinCow
Jolt

Executed:
Ichigo
Lord Winter
Sigurd
Askthepizzaguy

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A very long, entertaining, tense, and exhausting round folks. Let's all keep in mind that it's just a game and enjoy ourselves for the remainder of it.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Happy Valentine's Day, everyone!

And remember, it is just a game. I am having delightful fun, and I encourage you all to do so. Just nail the scumbags and I can rest in peace.

Blah blah blah blah... *bludgeoned to death by rubber chickens*

Dead.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

By my count we have 7 lynches...good odds.

[glyphz]

A very long, entertaining, tense, and exhausting round folks. Let's all keep in mind that it's just a game and enjoy ourselves for the remainder of it.

Hear, hear...

[TinCow]

Never thought I'd say this, but I was glad to be dead for that round.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I shall enjoy watching this unfold. Don't blindly trust TevashSzat, fellows. So many mafia have revealed as detective, especially under such pressure, in so many games.

It's going to be an agonizingly long endgame for the mafia. I am curious to see how they pull this one off. Watching them squirm will be a delight.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Nothing's hidden.

Nothing is in the open either??

Vote: Shlin28

For invoking the execution method of Evil.

Quote:
Originally Posted by TevashSzat
Your idea seems very promising. Does anyone here know who in the game speaks English as their first/primary language. I spose that may be useful later on

Well, I do... But the last time I tried to analyze writeups on this sort of thing, the mafia won.

Quote:
Originally Posted by CountArach
I do believe I have died that way once. Certainly I have gone out while having sex with a prostitute.

Death by prostitute

I leave you folks alone for 8 hours and I come back to this? Dear lord...

Vote: Ichigo

Sorry, my man, but its not a choice I like making...

And never mind that a pair of lurkers achieved Total Victory in Chicago...

[TinCow]

Alright, Sasaki, let me show my point via a question: Hypothetically(and I'm not saying you are), if you were a mafioso, what would it take for you to kill me in the second round?

Please bare in mind, the vast majority of people playing in this game have, most recently, experienced me as a near psychopath bent upon town destruction 75% of the time in the last few months. I've not been killed early on in... well, honestly, I can't remember the last time. 'Cause I'm total lynch bait.

I think this is poor reasoning. You seem to be assuming that you were killed because you were on to something. Well, I'm lynch bait as well, and they also offed me. Does that mean I was on to something? Offing people like us makes a lot of sense in this game due to the hand-picked Grunts situation. In this game, the people who are usually lynch bait are the ones least likely to be picked as grunts. Thus, they're also less useful for the mafia to keep alive. At least that's how I see it.

[shlin28]

Okay, this is kinda a long winded way to solve Khaan's conundrum, but thats the only thing I can think of... so...

Well, I do... But the last time I tried to analyze writeups on this sort of thing, the mafia won.

Khaan asked both Andres and Sasaki to "suppose" what they would do to kill Khaan if they are mafia... and in thse two links quoted here, the only two people mentioned there and is also in this game is... Andres and Sasaki.

Strange? Yes. Possible? Unlikely. Is it at least an attempt to solve this? HELL YEAH!

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I think this is poor reasoning. You seem to be assuming that you were killed because you were on to something. Well, I'm lynch bait as well, and they also offed me. Does that mean I was on to something? Offing people like us makes a lot of sense in this game due to the hand-picked Grunts situation. In this game, the people who are usually lynch bait are the ones least likely to be picked as grunts. Thus, they're also less useful for the mafia to keep alive. At least that's how I see it.

I agree--if he wasn't a detective or role of some kind then there's nothing much we can learn from his posts. I've been knocked off early before back when I got lynched all the time too.

[Thermal]

With ATPG's self vote i am more or less convinced he was innocent, when it could have gone either way otherwise, tevash is hard to work out, overall I would say that is the most times my vote has been poised to sway, I really was on tevash's side at one point, to ATPG's on another, with tevash's inevitable death (no matter what happens) hopefully that little box of mystery will close off soon, leaving IMO the other suspicious guys, other than those ATPG lists, Taka as he lurked on a game previous, just to be mafia, Ignoramus always lurks supposedly, but still someone to look out for....

Also with Tincow's attempt at song analysis i hope that doesn't put me next in line for death.

[Beefy187]

Note: I CAN ONLY BE A GODFATHER OR TOWNIE! If I was a grunt and tried to be the CoP, I would be found out and lynched so fast before I can think of a decent lynch method.

Why would, if I was a grunt, I take such a risk and try to become CoP?

Godfather is still a mafia. If your a God Father, there is more then enough benefits for your self to become CoP.

Seeing as Tevash revealed, doesn't matter how scummy it is. He might be a detective and I think thats enough reason to keep him alive for now unless someone ales claims detective.

[White_eyes:D]

I have been thinking....what do we do if the grunts are already dead??? (unlikely, but possible....)
then a detective would be worthless....unless, after all grunts are dead....we can get a "guilty result"

[Seamus Fermanagh]

I have been thinking....what do we do if the grunts are already dead??? (unlikely, but possible....)
then a detective would be worthless....unless, after all grunts are dead....we can get a "guilty result"

Its a possibility, but ultimately doesn't change anything. The Godfather cannot be found out by investigation or what-not. Only through participation and interaction. That's why, in a Godfather game, I actually do get annoyed at lurking. In most games, they just get wogged out, but here, lurkers are great cover for a GF.

Pizza: I'd guess your probably innocent since you aced yourself without reason to do so. I too have my qualms about Tev's reveal. However, as is traditional, the revealed "detective" must provide results and get things correct or he ends up as laserine shark food.

[seireikhaan]

Oh...

What an absolute PITY you couldn't make it back in time to offer your thoughts before they lynch, eh Seamus?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

khaan you have a responsability here. If you aren't the detective, don't imply that you are. You being the detective doesn't jive with your comments about seamus--or at least not with you having a guilty result on him. You seem to be saying that something regarding the kills reminds you of seamus when he was your mafia buddy in cosa nuova II, and your mentioning that is why you were killed. That's not solid evidence though.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Right. Well, I have a little deduction for you.

Ready?

I believe Tevash (sorry on behalf of the town it came to this).

Please please please try to investigate Seamus as soon as night comes. I don't know if GH is still doing the realism thing but if your order goes in before the Mafia you will get your result sooner. I think Seamus is a bad guy, let's see if he's a grunt or not.

And then:

Askthepizzaguy: 8 (Sasaki Kojiro, Reenk Roink, White_eyes:D, TevashSzat, Beefy187, Seamus Fermanagh, Andres, Askthepizzaguy)
TevashSzat: 6 (Ignoramus, taka, Psychonaut, YLC, Chaotix27, glyphz)

Tell me, TevashSzat, Reenk Roink, Sasaki Kojiro, Shlin28... any of you who can answer this one. This one is most puzzling. So, you folks who voted me thought I was guilty, correct?

So, tell me... why would my mafia partner vote for me? Why would Seamus vote for me, on this close, deciding vote? Why didn't he switch to Tevash? Why didn't I keep my vote on Tevash?

Why would you, Reenk, suggest that Seamus is the most likely candidate to be my mafia partner?

You folks who voted me cannot be my mafia partner. I was never mafia. Seamus was just a little slow to realize my alignment, that's all... and he wanted to survive just a little bit longer. I deduce the mafia are still looking for the investigator, and they believe it's Seamus Fermanagh. That's why, for no reason at all, and with logic that would blind an eyeless fish, he decided Seamus was the guilty party.

Seamus will die tonight or tomorrow morning, if the mafia have their way. The only part that confuses me is why Seamus didn't counter-reveal... could he be looking for the other suspects? It's a shame he's not here to confirm my conclusion, and gosh I am sorry if I am wrong.



Once you're dead, you cannot reveal yourself, Seamus. I obviously could not solve Seireikhaan's clues, or else I would have concluded my case against my opponent earlier when I was still alive. Pity I was slow on the uptake.

Seireikhaan is obviously forced into virtual silence on this matter. Why is that? Even though he cannot speak what's on his mind, his silence speaks volumes more than his actual clues did for me. I still cannot exhaustively conclude this scenario is the correct one based on his clues. There is still much speculation and room for error.

But I do know this: Reenk Roink knows darn well that my mafia partner would have saved my butt and lynched TevashSzat instead. So the fact that he'd announce his desire to see Seamus' life ended in any way, shape, or form can lead to only one conclusion that I can see.

Reenk Roink doesn't believe I was guilty. Reenk Roink doesn't believe Seamus is guilty. But he wanted both of us dead, to spare TevashSzat.




Either refute this logic, or I call game... set... match. Only this time, I don't think I messed it up.

[CountArach]

Not to everyone: I am re-reading this entire thread from beginning to end. Expect some analysis when I am done... probably in a number of hours.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Thank you, CountArach.

I encourage all the dead people to show up. There's going to be an army of torch-wielding, axe-carrying zombies on your doorstep very shortly, you mafia scum. Good luck killing all of us.

Its a possibility, but ultimately doesn't change anything. The Godfather cannot be found out by investigation or what-not. Only through participation and interaction. That's why, in a Godfather game, I actually do get annoyed at lurking. In most games, they just get wogged out, but here, lurkers are great cover for a GF.

Pizza: I'd guess your probably innocent since you aced yourself without reason to do so. I too have my qualms about Tev's reveal. However, as is traditional, the revealed "detective" must provide results and get things correct or he ends up as laserine shark food.

The jig is up, Seamus. Reenk already stated his desire to "investigate" you. Tevash will find you guilty or find you dead, maybe even both.

I believe, according to the rules, once you're dead you can't confirm or deny it. It's better to say so now, because I have reason to believe you are very, very dead, very, very soon.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Deleted, sorry double post.

Was trying to edit, not post again.

[shlin28]

Er... how is Seamus the detective? How would you know that?

I get the first part about RR's accusation of Seamus, I totally agree with you on that one (NOTE: I am not in communications with anybody on my "side" as it were, so I have no idea why he accused Seamus). But then you went on to say Seamus is a detective? isn't revealing it in the thread... if it was true, a teeny tiny dangerous?