Superior Tactics 2-NEW VIDEO

[ToeAndno]

http://www.totalwar.com/empire/gallery/videos.php

Enjoy

[ByzanKing]

If I could only watch this at work. Stupid sexy internet firewall!!!!!!!

[Fisherking]

it no worky! No picture

[ToeAndno]

Just to be safe, try out the UK site

[Sir Beane]

It's Jack!

Cavalry seem a lot less powerful in this video. Perhaps a deliberate attempt to respond to the critiscism of the last one?

[ToeAndno]

Most defnitely a response, haha.

[Fisherking]

Half the world and a few aliens must be on that site! That is the slowest I have ever seen a video load…

I can’t help but think that Jack Lusted is one brave guy. Right now the demo horde has his face scanned and a voice print… they are likely scouring all Britain for his likeness.

They will want to hold him for ransom! And while they do, water board him for additional information….

Quick! Call Downing Street and get that man SAS protection!

[Barkhorn1x]

If I could only watch this at work. Stupid sexy internet firewall!!!!!!!

Me too.

Can someone be good enough to briefly describe the contents?

Thanks.

[Sir Beane]

Me too.

Can someone be good enough to briefly describe the contents?

Thanks.

Poland vs. Austria, with Poland as the A.I.

The video is an attempt to demonstrate massed cavalry tactics and how to beat them. Poland has a large contingent of Winged Hussars, who are the best cavalry in the game apparently.

Jack sets up a long line of infantry for maximum firepower. The Polish attempt to flank with cavalry but he sends his own cavalry to beat them, his cavalry are eventually beaten. Part of his flank forms a defensive square designed to fight off cavalry and it works (very effectively).

After that its just a case of shooting stray horses, with the cavalry having been soundly defeated by infantry.

[Monk]

.com is apparently getting blown up by high traffic as this video is taking forever to load fully.

Anyone got sights on a downloadable/HD version somewhere?

[ToeAndno]

Direct Link:
Mediafire.com -> Clicky

From another forum, not hi-res yet.

[Barkhorn1x]

Thanks for that - but I just watched it as I found a link that was not blocked elsewhere.

Observations:
- Looks like a later build than the first vid to me - much more fluid/polished
- Graphics looked much better
- Sound was better too


- Jack looks like he is wearing a Hogwart's scarf!

Hey Jack - say 'ello to 'arry for me.

[Fisherking]

Jack looks like Malfoy’s first cousin…just dark hair…and no sneer…

[Monk]

Thanks for that - but I just watched it as I found a link that was not blocked elsewhere.

Observations:
- Looks like a later build than the first vid to me - much more fluid/polished
- Graphics looked much better
- Sound was better too

Agreed. Especially the uniforms of the troops, they didn't have the "low-res" texture look that a lot of the videos from the past have had. Very nice, very richly detailed. With no offense to the previous CA rep who played a game in front of a camera, Jack seems to be much more savvy about his tactical position and what the AI is gonna throw at him. He keeps the squares on the flanks to protect against a cavalry attack while going head to head with the Polish center.

The only thing that concerns me is that the Polish cavalry charges the square. To jack's credit it looked like he had at least two squares that pretty solidly cut off the polish cavalry from attacking his line infantry. Unless they wanted to ride through the exchange of fire and subject themselves to friendly fire it was likely the only other way the AI saw to get to its objective.

It's good to see, however, that the best cavalry in the game cannot break through a formation designed to counter them.

Much better Vid.

[tibilicus]

"These cavalry will beat my infantry if they charge them head on"

This quote concerns me. I'm not hoping for another game whereby blobbing all my cavalry into a big mass and charging a front line ensures me victory.

I hope this isn't the case..

[CBR]

Hm hussars supposedly can charge straight through a line in a frontal attack. Maybe the squares will defeat cav but nonetheless it still manages to enter the square. I'd still like to see more firepower and the advanced morale system than what has been shown so far.

I thought the first video showed more of the action than this one. Difficult to see what is going on.


CBR

[Monk]

Hm hussars supposedly can charge straight through a line in a frontal attack. Maybe the squares will defeat cav but nonetheless it still manages to enter the square. I'd still like to see more firepower and the advanced morale system than what has been shown so far.

I thought the first video showed more of the action than this one. Difficult to see what is going on.


CBR

That looked like a graphical bug to me. I watched the vid again and a number of troops, instead of stopping the cavalry like some others get pushed back, gliding backwards like a phantom and allowing cavalry units to bit by bit ease into the square.

edit: just hit me. Maybe this is the reason we don't have a demo/land battles aren't considered "ready" in that build?

[CBR]

2:33 does not look like a bug to me IMO


CBR

[Monk]

2:33 does not look like a bug to me IMO


CBR

Actually that's exactly what I was referring to. If you look dead center of the screen you can see an infantryman just gliding backwards, not engaging in animation. He's being pushed along by a Hussar.

[KozaK13]

You can only do so much, infantry got pushed in Med 2 and Rome like that.

[Monk]

You can only do so much, infantry got pushed in Med 2 and Rome like that.

I've never seen it to that extent though. But I'll take your word for it.

[pdoyle007]

That worried me slightly too, although thinking about it realistically if the soldier was unloaded the horse would hit him, push him back and die from bayonet, which is basically what happened.

Unless Jack was obviously better in the line infantry I am unsure why the cavalry charged the squares, it can be seen as a daft AI move (rather than wait for the Polish line infantry to engage the square) or a clever AI move (last role of the dice/act of desperation knowing they'll lose anyway and doing something to try and force a win).

Also glad I'm not the only one that cheers when I win!!

[Pinxit]

That worried me slightly too, although thinking about it realistically if the soldier was unloaded the horse would hit him, push him back and die from bayonet, which is basically what happened.

Unless Jack was obviously better in the line infantry I am unsure why the cavalry charged the squares, it can be seen as a daft AI move (rather than wait for the Polish line infantry to engage the square) or a clever AI move (last role of the dice/act of desperation knowing they'll lose anyway and doing something to try and force a win).

Also glad I'm not the only one that cheers when I win!!

People seem obsessed facing an excellent AI. And there is no mercy when it comes to bad moves by the AI. As you all have proven during these two tactics movies.

What you dont seem to grasp is that an AI that always does the right thing isnt perfect, but actually rather flawed. An AI always doing the right move, would put up little resistance since there is only so many correct moves done by the book, consequently being predictable and easy to beat. I want variation in the computers behaviour. I dont want it to act brilliantly all the time. That would be unrealistic and boring.

And I say that because I live in the land of the

[Sheogorath]

The muskets sound much better in this movie, I think. They got rid of the old MTW2 'boooum' noise and gave them a much snappier effect. They sound more like muskets and less like miniature cannons.

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

Thanks for the link, ToeAndno. All the official Total War sites seem to be loading very slowly for me (which is weird, I've got great university bandwidth to burn).

I think the pushback thing in 2:33 may be a bug, sort of. I've seen it in M2TW (or nearly as bad, I'm pretty sure). Basically, the cavalry continues to push back the infantry because neither individual is getting a successful resolution to the combat animations or something like that.

[NagatsukaShumi]

Tbf, I am rather pleased that the only negative I can pick out is a slight graphical mishap.

[Greyblades]

I was kinda hoping for a naval battle this time. Oh well...
Actualy have we ever had a demonstration of the naval battles?

[Ituralde]

No, but then we didn't have a presentation of a land battle, before these two videos showed up.

Fortunately there's one in the demo though.

[Fisherking]

Now we don’t need it…We can learn our selves.

And as for the graphics glitch, it has been happening in every game from MTW as I recall. I have lived with it this long, one more game is not going to make much difference.

[Incongruous]

Looks crisper and more professional now, as others have pinted out there does still seem to be the issue or un-responsive animation which has plagued total war since Rome, and I hope it is fixed before release.

Other than that, I was pleased to see that infantry squares, no matter the quality of oposition cavalry, seem to hold out well and win through.

I am still worried about the size, or rather concentration, of battlefields and armies but will hold out judgement.