Grenadiers... Grenades?

[hoom]

So what kind of ammo count do Grenadiers have?
Like 2 each or 30?

My very limited research on the topic seems to indicate Grenadiers were still using grenades probably for the first decade or two of the game, with use going out of fashion due to better musketry but I can't seem to find reference about whether they actually stopped being equipped with grenades or if they just weren't trying to use them?
I can imagine them striding out on the field with a couple of grenades ready (on a belt or in a satchell?) but never actually using them.

[Sir Beane]

So what kind of ammo count do Grenadiers have?
Like 2 each or 30?

My very limited research on the topic seems to indicate Grenadiers were still using grenades probably for the first decade or two of the game, with use going out of fashion due to better musketry but I can't seem to find reference about whether they actually stopped being equipped with grenades or if they just weren't trying to use them?
I can imagine them striding out on the field with a couple of grenades ready (on a belt or in a satchell?) but never actually using them.

They keep them in a satchel in game, I have no idea how many they have. They got off one round on my game before being shot to bits by Long Rifle Men.

They did indeed go out of fashion, and when you play the game you can see why.

[Megas Methuselah]

I dunno, Hoom. I never got the opportunity to actually overkill grenades as the range is very, very short, and the grenadiers essentially become sitting ducks. Ammo count wouldn't matter much, IMHO.

EDIT: Lol, stop beating my posts, Beane.

[Flavius Silvanus]

I think I would rather see them lose the grenades, but get more men in the unit.

[Mr Frost]

Well , all this answers a question I was going to ask when the demo came out {ie: about now :)} which was "do grenadiers have grenades , muskets and bayonets , which is 2 say : can soldiers now have more than just 2 weapons ?" .

Unless I have missread , they indeed have 3 weapons {the mentioned grenades , muskets and bayonets} which should mean 3 different weapons entries in their export_descr_units.txt {or whatever the applicable file will be called if different} which opens up all soets of interesting possibilities such as E.B.s Leuce Epos having javlins , lance and longsword , Thorakitai having javlins , spear and kopis , certain Kataphract units with bow , lance and mace/sword .

I'll be intrigued to see if even more than 2 are possible and if it is feasable to implement it . Interesting .

[Daevyll]

Considering the weight of grenades in that era, I doubt they'd have very many.
I consider the grenadiers to be an elite unit to stiffen the ranks, that is a bit better at assault situations and has a higher morale. The fact that they have an extra 'twist' in that they can throw grenades is a nicety, which is highly situational; I expect them to not use this ability in most battles.

Also, could perhaps be useful in clearing occupied buildings; a bit like throwing in a flash-bang before forced entry ;)

[pevergreen]

I think they could be used as a humiliation unit.

"Oh I just destroyed your army. To truly show you how scared I am, I shall walk my grenadiers up in front of your cannons, and throw some grenades into your cannons."

I did it, and lost 1/2 the unit to canister fire.

[antisocialmunky]

I could see a player mixing them into a line or advancing through forest making the other guy go boom because they can't see the bastards.

[Mr Frost]

I could see a player mixing them into a line or advancing through forest making the other guy go boom because they can't see the bastards.

In real life , grenades shine when they are used on troops whom make the mistake of getting tightly clustered together {or when they are well polished } so try them at bottlenecks like breaches in walls and bridge crossings if you want to see them cause some havok .