Empire Map

[Fisherking]

But the other two were included on that one screen shot!

Did they lack detail?

[Sir Beane]

But the other two were included on that one screen shot!

Did they lack detail?

Other two what?

What I want to know is, if recent info is correct and Switzerland is not a faction, why is there a province in exactly the right place for the Swiss Confederation. A province that clearly doesn't belong to the surrounding powers?

[Fisherking]

Other two what?

What I want to know is, if recent info is correct and Switzerland is not a faction, why is there a province in exactly the right place for the Swiss Confederation. A province that clearly doesn't belong to the surrounding powers?

To the right of the factions.




http://uk.pc.ign.com/dor/objects/958...page=mediaFull

[Sir Beane]

To the right of the factions.




http://uk.pc.ign.com/dor/objects/958...page=mediaFull

Oh, the other two mini maps. I didn't bother posting them because they haven't changed at all from the versions we had previously. You'll be pleased to note that it looks like there are around 6 Native American factions though.

[Hollerbach]

Haven't been keeping up with the trickle of info, but some of the territory sizes look odd, like only a single territory for france but several for north africa. Most of India seems to be one big territory that is surrounded by a few tiny ones, instead of being a few medium sized territories. I guess the new system of buildings on the map etc must make territories a different kind of entity than in previous games?

[Sir Beane]

Haven't been keeping up with the trickle of info, but some of the territory sizes look odd, like only a single territory for france but several for north africa. Most of India seems to be one big territory that is surrounded by a few tiny ones, instead of being a few medium sized territories. I guess the new system of buildings on the map etc must make territories a different kind of entity than in previous games?

They are. Territores are done on a country basis in Empire. Spain is one, France is one, England is one etc. Provinces have mulitple cities, but still fall if you take the capital. More cities appear as your population increases. Each city id the hme of a specific chain of upgrades. For example Portsmouth in England would be a naval city.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I have some questions:

http://pc.ign.com/dor/objects/958390...page=mediaFull

Agent called ... a Scholar????
And female rulers??

http://pc.ign.com/dor/objects/958390...page=mediaFull

Sir Baene - from this picture you can see that there is no Switzerland. There is just mountainous region with dense forest.

http://pc.ign.com/dor/objects/958390...page=mediaFull

So we have priests in this game too.

This makes me wonder why did CA told us that there are fewer agents?
We have gentlemen, rakes, scholars and priests. Not that much fewer if I may say!

Sry for going off-topic like that.

[Sir Beane]

I have some questions:

http://pc.ign.com/dor/objects/958390...page=mediaFull

Agent called ... a Scholar????
And female rulers??

http://pc.ign.com/dor/objects/958390...page=mediaFull

Sir Baene - from this picture you can see that there is no Switzerland. There is just mountainous region with dense forest.

http://pc.ign.com/dor/objects/958390...page=mediaFull

So we have priests in this game too.

This makes me wonder why did CA told us that there are fewer agents?
We have gentlemen, rakes, scholars and priests. Not that much fewer if I may say!

Sry for going off-topic like that.

Scholars are just another name for Gentelmen, probably a faction variation.

Yes you can have female rulers this time around.

While there may be no Switzerland there is clearly a province not owned by another faction which is exactly the size and shape of Switzerland. You can see it on the mini-map.

Preists are known as missionaries and seem to be a recent addition.

And there are fewer agents. ETW has three.: Gentelaman, Rake, Missionary. M2TW had 6: Spy, Assassin, Diplomat, Merchant, Preist, Princess. It also had heretics, witches and Inquisitors which I doubt ETW will have.

[Jack Lusted]

Scholars are Indian gentlemen. And as agents now spawn instead of being recruited(some buildings increase the spawn rate/max amount of agents) you have less of them around.

[Sir Beane]

Scholars are Indian gentlemen. And as agents now spawn instead of being recruited(some buildings increase the spawn rate/max amount of agents) you have less of them around.

Thanks Jack . Can you comment on why there is what appears to be an empty province instead of the Swiss Confederation?

[Hollerbach]

Hmm, the 'scholar' looks very much like the scientist 'great person' from CivIV. Actually a lot of ETW is reminiscant of CivIV (the diplomacy sound very CivIV like for instance, and the tech tree sounds very Civ), and the battle interface looks to have picked up the best parts of Sid Meiers 'Civil War' games (button for advance and withdraw, left wheel right wheel etc). Not that this is a bad thing, these are all great improvements!

Thanks for the info Beane, will be interesting to see how this plays out. btw looking at the first pic in the previous post it looks like in fact India is made of many small territories? Maybe the lines of the mini map don't mean what they did in the past?

Edit: Okay, so a bazillion posts came in while I was typing, I was referring to post #13 when I said 'in the last post'. However, if gentlemen spawn at a rate influence by buildings and upgrades then they sound even more like the 'great people' from CivIV. As I say though, I don't consider this heinous plagarism, games should adapt and evolve picking the best bits out of other successful games.

[Sir Beane]

Hmm, the 'scholar' looks very much like the scientist 'great person' from CivIV. Actually a lot of ETW is reminiscant of CivIV (the diplomacy sound very CivIV like for instance, and the tech tree sounds very Civ), and the battle interface looks to have picked up the best parts of Sid Meiers 'Civil War' games (button for advance and withdraw, left wheel right wheel etc). Not that this is a bad thing, these are all great improvements!

Thanks for the info Beane, will be interesting to see how this plays out. btw looking at the first pic in the previous post it looks like in fact India is made of many small territories? Maybe the lines of the mini map don't mean what they did in the past?

India is made up of many small territories, I guess they decided to divide it up more than certain areas of Europe. I think the lines still mean the same thing.

[Marten]

Other two what?

What I want to know is, if recent info is correct and Switzerland is not a faction, why is there a province in exactly the right place for the Swiss Confederation. A province that clearly doesn't belong to the surrounding powers?

This province, dear Sir Beane, is the country (or better state) i am currently living. The Capital is Stuttgart, known also as Capital of the best sports cars ever made (have to say this - they are paying my E:TW copy). And below that beautiful town you will find the famous Black Forest.

But, south of the Rhine is indeed the place where Switzerland belongs - now it is a black hole on the map. Seems to me, you won't be able to cross the forest.

See:

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[Haxorsist]

It looks like the Scholar is just the Maratha version of the Gentleman, because according to CA there didn't exist any gentlemen in India.

Edit: nevermind. =)