Re: The Godfather, Part 3 (IN PLAY)
Hello.
Let's say player A is the godfather. We tie up the vote like so:
Player A: 2 (B, C)
Player B: 2 (A, D)
If the godfather switches his vote at the last minute he will be lynched.
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It'll be fun! Come on!Originally Posted by reenk
Besides, all we have to do is put two on beefy and one on someone else, and in that case you have to either tie it or let beefy die.
Re: The Godfather, Part 3 (IN PLAY)
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No deal, Sasaki. (If my opinion matters)
Not only does it risk everything on the notion that we have to put two votes on the Godfather, but I believe you tagged the wrong person as the Godfather, maybe even on purpose.
If GH won't want a draw for a result of this game, then I say there shouldn't be a tie. It's too much of a gamble, and it's a bad one.
@Reenk Roink,
Oh I agree... but if we aren't at least putting in a little effort to win, there's no point in devising strategies and thinking about our votes.
If we are going to have a game, yes fun comes first, but we should still play to win as well. I already offered a draw as a possible outcome, which proves I don't care about winning, just about having a fun outcome, but GH won't allow it, so...
Town's best strategy is to avoid the tie. That's a bad idea, it's all I am saying. And like I said, if town isn't sure it's Reenk Roink, put 3 votes on anyone else, I don't really care. I know who I would pick, but I voted for myself in round 5, thereby taking away my ability to vote.
All I am asking is for town to follow a sane endgame strategy, nothing more.
Last edited by Askthepizzaguy; 03-01-2009 at 06:08.
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Re: The Godfather, Part 3 (IN PLAY)
Alright how about me and Reenk for the two candidates? Then its Never Winters Mafia all over again
Both of you will be satisfied then wouldn't you?
Re: The Godfather, Part 3 (IN PLAY)
So you don't think Andres is guilty after all
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I'm not sure. I'm waiting for Andres to show up so i get to hear more from him.
But if you Sasaki are desperate wanting me lynched and ATPG are wanting Reenk lynched I just thought I'll suggest that.
But its likely to start up with 4 way tie when he does
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If town seriously thinks that you're the Godfather, Beefy, why not lynch you now? I don't think you are, so I fail to see the point. Don't mind me, I'm dead and slightly crazy after some 300 odd posts here.
But, if everyone would be willing to lock in their votes for the tie, fine! Let the dead vote. I seriously doubt that the dead will pick Beefy over Reenk Roink, but let's let them decide that. Trouble is, everyone, including the Godfather, would have to agree to tie the votes, and since the role of the Godfather is to lie, he can possibly weasel his way out if it, I just find it to be an unnecessary risk.
Why not have a clean ending to the game? 3 votes on one player, and that's it.Why make it more complicated than it needs to be?
If everyone here gave a gentleman's agreement to LEAVE IT a tie, then fine. The Godfather will have to betray everyone's trust and his own word to win, which I feel is unsportsmanlike. So... that's my proposal.
1. 3 votes on one candidate to end the game
OR
2. Gentleman's agreement to keep the vote tied.
I'd be fine with either. See, I am listening to you, Sasaki... I just find it interesting your proposals make it less likely town will win, is all. Plus the unicyclist seemed to really, really have it out for ya...
Last edited by Askthepizzaguy; 03-01-2009 at 06:15.
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#Montytoostronger
Re: The Godfather, Part 3 (IN PLAY)
The problem is you are looking at it from one perspective Atpg.
Why should the Godfather agree to such unfair terms in his view? He should certainly have to option to pull a fast last second vote switch to secure victory.
Re: The Godfather, Part 3 (IN PLAY)
And THAT is precisely why I am totally against the idea, and we shouldn't do it.The problem is you are looking at it from one perspective Atpg.
Why should the Godfather agree to such unfair terms in his view? He should certainly have to option to pull a fast last second vote switch to secure victory.
3 votes ends the game. That's the best way to end it. Others are suggesting a tie which you clearly won't accept, and a draw which you won't accept and GH won't allow.
So, 3 votes to end the game. It's obvious that's the way the game has to end.
And, yeah... never again:
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¡Ay, caramba! I've lost my freaking mind.
Last edited by Askthepizzaguy; 03-01-2009 at 06:21.
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Re: The Godfather, Part 3 (IN PLAY)
So you are against the idea of the Godfather utilizing a legal stratagem in his victory?And THAT is precisely why I am totally against the idea, and we shouldn't do it.
3 votes ends the game. That's the best way to end it. Others are suggesting a tie which you clearly won't accept, and a draw which you won't accept and GH won't allow.
So, 3 votes to end the game. It's obvious that's the way the game has to end.
The rules don't restrict this behavior, why should you?
Last edited by Reenk Roink; 03-01-2009 at 06:20.
Re: The Godfather, Part 3 (IN PLAY)
What are the odds of one player out of the 4 being the godfather?
What are the odds of the godfather being one of the tied players when 2 out of 4 are tied?
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And I'm sure our "playful" host will enjoy the looks on mafias face by granting the town a extension of few extra hours if someone did a vote switch
Thats what I hope it will happen although, if three of youz can stay online near the finishing to make sure you can react fast that should be able to prevent it
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And if tie continues after the voting extension deadline.. Dead will be allowed to vote. Dead are very very fair aren't they?
Re: The Godfather, Part 3 (IN PLAY)
I had this happen to me in Whispers of the Night where I put on a vote on Sigurd with less than 20 minutes to spare at 2 AM time here.
But the round was extended for almost 2 hours. Now, had my original quick plan worked, I don't think I did anything wrong or unethical at all? Do people share the same opinion and if not, why not?
Personally, if/when I ever host, I will set voting deadlines and not change them unless well in advance. I will allow last minute vote switches. And to make it fair to peoples in all time zones I will set deadlines at differing times every round randomly.
Sorry to derail into a Mafia ethics tangent but we have time and are waiting.
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right ive read everything posted in the last few hours.
hm......
i'm gonna dissapoint Pizza in saying that i think the 2 way tie is a good to go as long as reenk is one of the 2
as for the other scummy, i just really don't know, as long as its reenk + one (me even, if anyone considers me scummy) i'm willing to do so.
mathematically, sasaki's lynch table
Player A: 2 (B, C)
Player B: 2 (A, D)
is good for me aswell
all we need to decide now is, who's the scummiest of us all?
i think there's no need for me to say who i think is scummy
Tainted Evil, Reenk's synopsisAct all cool and stuff, only taka knows about your true noobness.
Gunfight at the O.K Corral
Re: The Godfather, Part 3 (IN PLAY)
My ideal tie will be Andres and Reenk. But I guess ill have to be one of them.
Although, I will want a 3-1 as I won't be able to sit around till 3 o clock.
2-2 is fine for me too. Now that I know how 2-2 works, I won't object it
Re: The Godfather, Part 3 (IN PLAY)
Well, since reenk has indicated that he isn't willing, we would need this:
Beefy: 2 (taka, Andres)
Reenk: 1 (Beefy)
Then reenk can either tie it by voting himself, or break his vow to protect beefy...
You'd have to switch your vote to beefy though, because we can't have beefy voting himself and we can't trust reenk's vote on beefy.
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