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    Default No kneeled soldiers?

    my bad it seems there are!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForVictory View Post
    Its a damn shame that the front line of soldiers can kneel so both the 2nd line of soldiers can fire a volley same time like it wa historically.
    Its an ability that is not avaliable in the demo unless you mod it but is avalible to research in the full game.

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    Default Re: No kneeled soldiers?

    They can with a tech upgrade, they just dont have it in the demo (which im guessing you are complaining about).
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    Default Re: No kneeled soldiers?

    Think it's supposed to be platoon fire?
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    Default Re: No kneeled soldiers?

    It's possible to mod it into the demo . And it works really well.


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    Default Re: No kneeled soldiers?

    Someone posted a video of it on YouTube:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0AQ_GqvKUM

    It looks incredibly effective.

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    Default Re: No kneeled soldiers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Miracle View Post
    Someone posted a video of it on YouTube:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0AQ_GqvKUM

    It looks incredibly effective.
    Nice! . Looks both impressive and effective.


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    Default Re: No kneeled soldiers?

    That is encouraging, I hope that the soldiers do not shoot their comrades in the back as they did in the demo. I had to always make sure that fire at will was off for units stood behind other units which was annoying. It was also bad how if you had a unit three ranks deep, only the front rank would fire, basically meaning that there was no benefit to having more men in the short term.

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    Someone will inevitably mod a recreation of Rorke's Drift a la Zulu and have a Michael Caine-lookalike shout out, "Front Rank, Fire! Second Rank, Fire!" etc. Or at least, he'll create a machinima for YouTube complete with "Men of Harlech" and a spitting trumpeter.

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    wow, i was only aware in the full game you could have up to two ranks shooting. That's really cool. I'm still wondering-i know the answer is somewhere on these forums-Is there a way to switch between fire whenever you've finished reloading and fire at the same time as the rest of your line?

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    Default Re: No kneeled soldiers?

    Just use the fire at will button with your units, they will reload when it's off, and will fire directly when you turn it on again...





    I just added rank fire in the demo and it really makes a differance, enemy line infantry gets shot within a couple of seconds totally anihilated 2 groups of line inf and 2 dragoons, nobody survived. I only lost one Guard
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    Default Re: No kneeled soldiers?

    Isn't it stupid to "invent" kneeling?!
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    Default Re: No kneeled soldiers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Liberator View Post
    Isn't it stupid to "invent" kneeling?!
    It's not that you are inventing kneeling. It's more like you invent tne neccesary drills and training methods to get soldiers to fire by rank properly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Liberator View Post
    Isn't it stupid to "invent" kneeling?!
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    Default Re: No kneeled soldiers?

    Somehow, kneeing seems more useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liberator View Post
    Isn't it stupid to "invent" kneeling?!
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    Default Re: No kneeled soldiers?

    It is just another anachronistic element of "technology" in ETW. Front ranks figured out to kneel even back in the 16th century.


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    Default Re: No kneeled soldiers?

    I am still rather dissapointed that only one rank at a time can fire. I can only hope that somebody will eventually come up with a way to have all three ranks fire at once, or at least the first two.
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    Default Re: No kneeled soldiers?

    Hm I'm not sure about it but I think I saw american long rifles all shooting at once in the demo.
    Maybe it's possible if the area has some slope so that the second line can fire without disturbing or even killing the first, just as it was with crossbows in MW2
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    Default Re: No kneeled soldiers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Liberator View Post
    Hm I'm not sure about it but I think I saw american long rifles all shooting at once in the demo.
    Maybe it's possible if the area has some slope so that the second line can fire without disturbing or even killing the first, just as it was with crossbows in MW2
    They managed three ranks firing at once in the past. I believe that most armies started experiencing 'friendly fire' at four ranks, which is why three was generally regarded as the 'standard', although some (such as the British) used two ranks.
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    Default Re: No kneeled soldiers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheogorath View Post
    They managed three ranks firing at once in the past. I believe that most armies started experiencing 'friendly fire' at four ranks, which is why three was generally regarded as the 'standard', although some (such as the British) used two ranks.
    It could be that multiple-rank fire is also a researchable technology.


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