Obama; New Type of Hope, Same Type of Stupid (Gun Control)

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

The hypothesis is clear enough....I don´t feel I need statistics to back up simple common sense....

But the hypothesis cannot be proven. As the lawyers say, no further questions.

Do you think a dictatorship would think twice before using much more aggressive methods to quell the Iraqi resistence?

I can also give you two examples - the Polish resistance and the French resistance.

[Jolt]

But the hypothesis cannot be proven. As the lawyers say, no further questions.



I can also give you two examples - the Polish resistance and the French resistance.

About the French resistence, it was done during the World War II. Were Germany never in the war, I can't see how would the resistence topple anything. As a matter of fact, they passed more time running from the Gestapo than doing anything else.

Polish resistence (Against what, the communists or the Germans?) If against the Germans, in peace-time they'd be crushed in a matter of hours (They were crushed even so), since the rest of the army would be readily available instead of being off fighting foreign armies. Against the communists it was a peaceful movement. Had it used weapons it would have been swiftly crushed.

[Ronin]

But the hypothesis cannot be proven. As the lawyers say, no further questions.

I´m gonna quote my own post to make this as clear as possible

"So if for example you are in a bar and some drunken fool tries to start a fight with you..you would rather him have a gun than not?

I would rather he had no gun and tried to take a swing at me.....I´m not so sure a person in such a condition would "think twice" before pulling a gun."

In my "hypothesis" all I did was describe 2 possible scenarios and ask which one you would rather be in..

this does not require statistics or any other kind of proof to support it....it only requires you to answer honestly.

so?

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

so?

But it is irrelevant, and not a realistic or logical argument against firearms.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I´m gonna quote my own post to make this as clear as possible

"So if for example you are in a bar and some drunken fool tries to start a fight with you..you would rather him have a gun than not?

I would rather he had no gun and tried to take a swing at me.....I´m not so sure a person in such a condition would "think twice" before pulling a gun."

In my "hypothesis" all I did was describe 2 possible scenarios and ask which one you would rather be in..

this does not require statistics or any other kind of proof to support it....it only requires you to answer honestly.

so?

Answer this one honestly: Your sister's ex-boyfriend has threatened to kill her and you know for a fact that he is headed to her house. Would you rather she had a gun or not?

[Ronin]

Answer this one honestly: Your sister's ex-boyfriend has threatened to kill her and you know for a fact that he is headed to her house. Would you rather she had a gun or not?

I would not want her to have a gun....having a gun involved in the situation would just elevate the chance of someone getting shot...now wouldn´t it?

as for the hypotethical situation you just described....if I have prior knowledge of where this ex-boyfriend is headed couldn´t this situation just as easily be resolved by calling my hypothetical sister and telling her to leave her house and go to a safe place? and then calling the police and alerting them of the situation?

Cell phones are readily available over here, have great coverage, and most importantly, can´t be used to kill someone.

also...if I can borrow from my previous example....I am not concerned by a drunk guy in a bar brandishing a cellphone at me....

sounds like a win win solution to me.


Edit: Better yet...let´s leave behind this silly sexist example of the "poor damsel in peril".....
I live in an appartment in a major metropolitan area, I am aware that there is a small statistic probability of a bunch of hooligans crashing my door in and trying to kill me...I live with that idea, and I sleep very well, just like I live with the statistic probability that I might get hit by a car tomorrow walking across the street.
I don´t want a gun, I don´t need a gun, and I don´t think a gun would contribute to my safety or those around me, quite the contrary.