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    Default How bad is it? Really bad... FDIC could be insolvent this year...

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=alsJZqIFuN3k

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    Bair Says Insurance Fund Could Be Insolvent This Year (Update1)

    By Alison Vekshin

    March 4 (Bloomberg) -- Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. Chairman Sheila Bair said the fund it uses to protect customer deposits at U.S. banks could dry up amid a surge in bank failures, as she responded to an industry outcry against new fees approved by the agency.

    “Without these assessments, the deposit insurance fund could become insolvent this year,” Bair wrote in a March 2 letter to the industry. U.S. community banks plan to flood the FDIC with about 5,000 letters in protest of the fees, according to a trade group.

    “A large number” of bank failures may occur through 2010 because of “rapidly deteriorating economic conditions,” Bair said in the letter. “Without substantial amounts of additional assessment revenue in the near future, current projections indicate that the fund balance will approach zero or even become negative.”

    The FDIC last week approved a one-time “emergency” fee and other assessment increases on the industry to rebuild a fund to repay customers for deposits of as much as $250,000 when a bank fails. The fees, opposed by the industry, may generate $27 billion this year after the fund fell to $18.9 billion in the fourth quarter from $34.6 billion in the previous period, the FDIC said.

    The fund, which lost $33.5 billion in 2008, was drained by 25 bank failures last year. Sixteen banks have failed so far this year, further straining the fund.

    Angry Bankers

    Smaller banks are outraged over the one-time fee, which could wipe out 50 percent to 100 percent of a bank’s 2009 earnings, Camden Fine, president of the Independent Community Bankers of America, said yesterday in a telephone interview.

    “I’ve never seen emotions like this,” said Fine, adding that he’s received more than 1,000 e-mails and telephone messages from angry bankers.

    “The FDIC realizes that these assessments are a significant expense, particularly during a financial crisis and recession when bank earnings are under pressure,” Bair wrote. “We did not want to impose large assessments when the industry and economy are struggling. We searched for alternatives but found none better.”

    The agency, which has released the change for 30 days of public comment, could modify the assessment to shift the burden to the large banks “that caused this train wreck,” Fine said. “Community bankers are feeling like they are paying for the incompetence and greed of Wall Street,” he said.

    Legal Constraints

    Bair dismissed that suggestion.

    “For risk-based assessments, our statute restricts us from discriminating against an institution because of size,” Bair wrote.

    The deposit insurance fund won’t dry up because the government can get funds from the industry and congressional appropriations, and borrow from the Treasury, Chip MacDonald, a partner specializing in financial services at law firm Jones Day, said today in a telephone interview.

    “As a depositor, I am not worried in the least,” MacDonald said. “No one is going to let the FDIC go without any money.”

    Consumers should watch this issue closely, said Edmund Mierzwinski, consumer program director at U.S. PIRG, a Boston- based consumer-watchdog group.

    “I wouldn’t take their money out of the bank yet,” Mierzwinski said. “If the FDIC is saying that there is this serious problem, then we should all be concerned. I think there is a chance the FDIC is going to have to ask taxpayers for money in the future.”

    No Taxpayer Funds

    Bair rejected arguments that the agency should use government aid to rebuild the fund. The FDIC has authority to tap a $30 billion line of credit at the Treasury Department and legislation pending in Congress would boost the amount to $100 billion.

    “Banks, not taxpayers, are expected to fund the system,” Bair said. Asking for taxpayer support “could paint all banks with the ‘bailout’ brush.”

    The FDIC “will revise the interim rule, if appropriate, in light of the comments received,” the agency said in a Federal Register notice.

    To contact the reporter on this story: Alison Vekshin in Washington at avekshin@bloomberg.net .

    Last Updated: March 4, 2009 14:17 EST


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    Default Re: How bad is it? Really bad... FDIC could be insolvent this year...

    There is no liquidity problem.

    The Government has floated over $3T in t-bills and t-notes since 9/2008.

    This means that a "conventional" bank failure -- run on the bank takes out all the money, boom -- is very unlikely. The failures will be of the less public and panicky sort.

    However, this means that we are in for a good stretch of inflation -- unless this current deflationary cycle exceeds expectations.
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    Default Re: How bad is it? Really bad... FDIC could be insolvent this year...

    I saw a story on this earlier. The FDIC is going to be jacking up the fees it charges banks by a factor of nine this year. Some banks are claiming it could wipe out all the revenue they'll make in 2009. How is this a good idea?
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    Default Re: How bad is it? Really bad... FDIC could be insolvent this year...

    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    There is no liquidity problem.

    The Government has floated over $3T in t-bills and t-notes since 9/2008.

    This means that a "conventional" bank failure -- run on the bank takes out all the money, boom -- is very unlikely. The failures will be of the less public and panicky sort.

    However, this means that we are in for a good stretch of inflation -- unless this current deflationary cycle exceeds expectations.
    Well knowing the government is printing more money to cover its irresponsible ass doesn't make me feel better about it. Ya, inflation... dare we say hyper-inflation?
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    Default Re: How bad is it? Really bad... FDIC could be insolvent this year...

    I'm glad I was poor before all this.
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    Default Re: How bad is it? Really bad... FDIC could be insolvent this year...

    I'm sure this is a total coincidence, but Stocks Sink as Banks Skid .

    At least WalMart seems ok:
    Wal-Mart Stores was one of the market's few bright spots after it posted a 5.1% jump in February same-store sales and said it would increase its dividend 15%. Its shares rose 2.6%. Other chains reported generally better-than-expected sales for last month, though many relied on deep discounting that may pressure profit margins. The consumer-discretionary sector of the S&P 500 fell 4%.
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    I hope when they start printing the billion dollar bill they slap Obama's mug on it. I'm storing food.
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    Default Re: How bad is it? Really bad... FDIC could be insolvent this year...

    Quote Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave View Post
    I hope when they start printing the billion dollar bill they slap Obama's mug on it. I'm storing food.
    How's this for starters?

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    Default Re: How bad is it? Really bad... FDIC could be insolvent this year...

    lol
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    This seems like a good place for some more economic good news.

    650,000+ people were laid off last month and unemployment has risen to 8.1 percent.
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