The Settlement [Concluded]

[White_eyes:D]

You have been avoiding the wrath of everyone by making that your title.....not something ATPG does.....nor do you care if you die, you always stay behind and make analysis's anyway
Why so resistant this time? I mean it well be fun, watching two Peasants kill each other....


Edit: about time....and I give....about 50-50 odds....
Unless....your a retired war veteran under the Priest King Reenk....

[TinCow]

As entertaining as this is to watch, I must point out that it is pointless. Challenges can only occur during the day. I'm pretty sure it's still night.

[LittleGrizzly]

Let us not rush to judge the traitor our fellow peasent. He has just been led astray in the belief that the jerks toffs oppressive elite good men are somehow better than the hard working men.

He will come to realise that there are two kinds of men... the good men and the GREAT men, us the workers the core of our very civilisation are those great men each and everyone of us whilst the good men are the parasites that feed off us and keep us down!

That being said i am willing to put aside years decades centuries of oppression to focus on this usurper problem, only on the gaurentee that we, the workers, get a fairer deal from now on!

No more whips!
Free and fair elections!
Secret ballot!

This beggar for one is not going to stand around and watch men throw away thier best chance at ending the oppression!

Edit This potential duel sounds like a great way to kill of an innocent for the mafia!

Bad play!

Assuming White Eyes isn't mafia trying to get an extra kill....

[Askthepizzaguy]

Whatever you like, White_eyes. Duel me tomorrow or not, it's up to you.

I'm just here for everyone's amusement, I don't care when I die or how. Better me than someone else.

[boudica]

You have been avoiding the wrath of everyone by making that your title.....not something ATPG does.....nor do you care if you die, you always stay behind and make analysis's anyway
Why so resistant this time? I mean it well be fun, watching two Peasants kill each other....


Edit: about time....and I give....about 50-50 odds....
Unless....your a retired war veteran under the Priest King Reenk....

Question: If White_Eyes:D and ATPG have an equal battle-rating, is it coin flip time to decide a deadly outcome? Or do they just hit each other with fish until it's time to eat wild boar and bash the bard instead?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Fish?

Can it be rubber chickens, please?
Or you know what, the Turkey from the Murder Manor game. Beat me upside the head with a wet, uncooked turkey. Any form of poultry, really, because I'm a spineless chicken anyway.

[White_eyes:D]

I also think of this as revenge for "Murder Manor"

[Andres]

No more whips!
Free and fair elections!
Secret ballot!

But most importantly, no more taxes!

[White_eyes:D]

nothing....

[Askthepizzaguy]

I also think of this as revenge for "Murder Manor"

Well, then you shall have it. No problems there. Choose your weapon:

The rubber chicken, the uncooked turkey, or the toilet plunger.

(chainsaw not included as it's not been invented)

[Askthepizzaguy]

I already accepted your duel, white_eyes.

[White_eyes:D]

I already accepted your duel, white_eyes.

It's a 50-50 chance.....I have a duel rating of 2.....

[Askthepizzaguy]

Does my lords wish to see this gruesome spectacle? I for one don't mind a particularly brutal slaughter, given my pathetic battle rating, but a challenge such as this is too tempting to turn down. I need some convincing not to accept it at this point!

[TinCow]

I am sorry ATPG......I must tell everyone about this.....I can't reveal what he told me in a PM....only that he had a possible partner and REALLY didn't want to duel.......

Edit: I can post it.....but it will likely lead to ATPG's lynch tomorrow or death tonight....so I won't....just keep a close eye on him....

Just by saying this, you are making ATPG a lynch candidate. If you're going to make a statement like this, you might as well spill everything, because the effect is essentially the same. The only thing you're achieving with the above is to make yourself look scummy as well.

[White_eyes:D]

Just by saying this, you are making ATPG a lynch candidate. If you're going to make a statement like this, you might as well spill everything, because the effect is essentially the same. The only thing you're achieving with the above is to make yourself look scummy as well.

no.....what I did was a mistake....(maybe).....but I won't undo what I have done....

[Askthepizzaguy]

No, no... he was just rolefishing, and I wanted to see how he'd react if I suggested I had a role. As far as I am aware, most everyone in the game has some sort of role.

Don't lynch White_Eyes.

[boudica]

I don't really understand how calling someone out for a fight can be helpful to anyone but those mysterious ones who seek to over-fro the wise Priest King Reenk Roink (gawwwds bless his shoiny helmet) Woi do it? Woi, Whoite Ois? WOI?

ie. No I don't really want to see you and White_Eyes dook it out with fish or turkeys - not unless the weaker one of you is up to no good. And it's night so it doesn't count anyway does it?

Do challenges 'refresh' come sun-up?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Again, I wish to be clear on this; I'm perfectly fine with being the first lynch, because I have got cow manure for a role yet again. I'm the wheat farmer, and I've got close to nothing for duel abilities. I'm just supposed to find the usurper, but I do get a duel bonus whenever it rains, apparently.

[White_eyes:D]

I better hope it doesn't rain then......

[Yoyoma1910]

Sirs, sirs, make calm your tempers!




It is but the first night since the sea beast paid our ship a visit. Let not your blood boil, but instead some water for a nice soothing tea.

If you wish to fight, do so on your own terms, and do not put this on the heads of others.

And you sirs, what is this rabble rousing and speaking of your selves as beggars? We are men on a ship seeking a new home. If you wish a new life, then make it so. If you can do nothing but live off of others as someone who must constantly ask for a hand out, how is that less of a parasite than of what you speak?

And taxes? We are citizen just as yourselves. We bare the tax burden just as you do. Many of us are no richer in money than you. Most of us toil in our labors, just and many of you do. And indeed, what respect would the state have for a wealthy man were he not to fork over more money to the treasury than another man?

If at the word and though of money ones lips begin to salivate, how different is that than a rabbid wolf with dreams of a piece of meat?


Please sirs, calm yourselves.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Here comes the senseless slaughter, as it is now too late to do anything to save my butt, I now must at least expose White_Eyes as being a role-less townie. That should at least help a little bit, given the mess. Might as well investigate him to be sure, after all... that means the mafia will probably want to murder him too as a cleared townie.

My initial PM was entitled: "Why I do not want to duel"

(Reposted here with White_Eyes permission)

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

BECAUSE I AM THE MASON, DANGIT!!!!!



Lucky shot if you are mafia. And I accepted your duel.

If you are even a shred of a townie, you'd better drop this. I know I will die early this game, as I always do. I always freaking die. But I expected to last longer than the first round, thanks.

(snip- role details eliminated)

So yeah. Thanks for the duel. You will be sorely disappointed. I have a whole 2 rating.

If you want to back out; here is the only way you can do it and have me even have a chance at survival:

You have to be persuaded by logic and by popular support to back down, or we are BOTH screwed.

And if you do kill me, I will be very, very pissed, but you know what? I did all I could.
Believe me or don't. Take this public or don't. Call for my investigation, but even that will force me to be murdered by the mafia. I don't care.

This opening blunder hurts. But I will stay on and analyze after I am dead, because I at least know one other person who is innocent. But if you're mafia and you don't back down, I am not telling you who it is.

In fact, to be safe, I can't tell you who it is. Sorry... given this disaster on round one, I really, really have to do damage control, and I'm not making this mess any bigger.

Your gonna die tonight.....or I well......we well see.....if I don't, then this PM well go to my partner a "Good man" and he well make sure you and your "buddy" are lynched......and our roles are weird...... but I must laugh.....had you not acted like a spineless peasant you might not have drawn, Everyone's attention to the fact that you have a role.....

I am about to take this whole thing public.

I'm not happy about this. If I don't hear back from you, that is precisely what I am going to do.

I revealed to you that I am a Mason. That means, at any moment, you can murder me as the mafia, or expose this to the entire town. My life is in your hands, when I could have kept quiet about my role. The town was ALREADY against this duel, and I had to accept to save face.

You do what you like, but if I am murdered tonight, I will point the finger alllllll over you. One mason for one mafia is a GREAT trade.

And the rest:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

What is a Mason.....?(I am a townie after all.....) and I am trying to save your Butt......hopefully the Mafia think you are suspicious enough to keep around.....I have no idea what a Mason role is though

........


Not happy.

A MASON is a TOWNIE who is aware of the existence of another TOWNIE whose innocence was confirmed by the HOST.

You didn't save my butt. You mentioned the contents of the private message. As such, the fact that I have a partner is exposed.

You have about ten minutes to persuade me not to post our entire interchange. No matter what you do or say NOW, it's too late. At this point, I feel as though the town needs to know what really happened.

no wait...... I am just a townie.....even if you spill your guts you will only endanger your partner.....I didn't say you HAD one....I said he POSSIBLY had one....

It's a bit late. It's there for everyone to see. Why would I suggest I had a partner if I didn't have one, THIS EARLY???


I soooooo want to post this interchange.

well.....not much choice if you feel that way....I can't do anything....I am just a normal townie...... besides....you did this to me before and you were Mafia then.... and even if you take a chance now and reveal....it's too risky, since you might get your partner killed...... and what well it accomplish??? killing you, me and your partner???

The way I see it, my partner is safe. Because no one knows who he is.

I'm as good as dead, due to your post in public about me revealing I had a partner. That means I am a mason, every mafia veteran knows that means I am a mason or the mafia. So I am dead.

You? That is the only reason I am reluctant to post this mess. I'm deciding whether or not to spare you, for killing me.

Your partner is (SNIP) .....now stop messing around.......

I am deadly serious. I already have all the PM's lined up in one big fantastic post, and I am itching to hit the post key. This will be my most spectacular exit from a game ever, AND I will have proven a point about how futile and senseless random duels are.

You need to tell me more about your role. If you have anything besides your basic townie, you have to tell me now, and in full detail, like I did.

I was rolefishing......and I found a Mason or Mafia......ME? a Farmer with a duel rating of two........

Mmmk.

Well, It could actually save your butt and mine from the lynch. With a calm, rational head, I am now asking permission to post it.

(he gave me permission)
And so, posted with permission.

The way I see it, damage control is this: Yes, I am a mason. But I have no additional abilities, so that basically means I am just a townie who knows another townie is innocent. And white_eyes has no special ability either. And we would both make excellent murder bait, so I am happy with this being made public.


LESSON EVERYONE NEEDS TO HAVE LEARNED:

Pointless duels have disastrous consequences. Don't be too hard on White_Eyes, but we as a group need to not do this again.








You live, you learn, right? Bottom line is, Because neither myself nor White_eyes have a valuable role, it is perfectly OK to make this public. Being a mason is worthless without defensive powers and such. In order for the mafia to make sure I am not bluffing about having no special ability, they have to murder me anyway. That's good for town. If they murder White_Eyes instead, that's also good for town, if he's telling the truth. And finally, if this puts a stop to the senseless duels, then it will have made something positive happen for the game in progress. No real harm done, just some hilarious, hilarious and sad mistakes.



EDIT: White_Eyes edited out his mistake, but it was over a half an hour too late, and it's been quoted several times.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Okay, I'm completely lost. Can somebody:

a) sum up in a very concise post exactly what's happened, and
b) explain if what has happened has produced anything of worth?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Summary:

1. White Eyes challenged me to a duel
2. I was reluctant to accept the duel as I have a battle rating of 2 and I am a MASON
3. I begged him in private to drop it immediately, because I was a MASON
4. He posted that I had revealed in private I had a partner.
5. It was then quoted several times.
6. After debating it privately, I decided to make it public. It might save one of our skins.


As we both have no valued abilities, and terrible duel power, it was the only way to fix things.

[TinCow]

a) ATPG and W_E challenged each other to a duel, even though it's night and they can't.
b) The only result is ATPG and W_E presenting WIFOM claims that they are townies.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm not nearly this creative, or sadistic.

Seriously, if this is WIFOM, then I need to get some kind of dunce award for posting it in public.

[White_eyes:D]

Our vote is all that counts, sadly.....and ATPG, was I right about your Partner? or was I off target.....(If he dies tonight you know I am Mafia.....)

[Askthepizzaguy]

No, he was not my partner, but I snipped it anyway to leave him as a suspect to be my partner.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Okay, so in other words White_eyes is townie for the simple fact that he knows better than to get involved in this sort of thing in the first night round.

ATPG...

Concisity (is that even a word?), man, concisity. It makes things a whole lot less confusing for the rest of us. I think, in the future, I'm going to pull a Dog Whisperer and go "Tsst" whenever things need to get a bit more concise. -edit- Not meant to be mean or degrading or anything. I just thought you'd appreciate the South Park reference.

[White_eyes:D]

I still plan to go through with the duel tomorrow (If we both are not killed)......so this way town knows we are not lying (or at least I am not)

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm done being upset now. It's now 1:17 PM and I haven't slept since before noon yesterday. I have to run. I feel as though a weight has been lifted from my shoulders. I am fine with whatever the outcome is.

And white_eyes... seriously, leave the duel alone. It won't prove anything to anyone. Some are skeptical as it is, but I gotta tell you: If I am lynched tomorrow, that would be a fitting reward for trying to reason with you in private.



This is actually pretty funny. Don't feel bad, dude. Just do me a favor and help me bag the mafia this game. I have to go to sleep. See you guys later.