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    Okay, I think by now, enough total war players have played Empire enough to know that it's a steaming pile of horse maneur. Naval combat is visually spectacular, but the land battles, lack of a multiplayer chatroom, lack of the option to input currency, ridiculously large and simplistic campaign map, and a number of bugs makes it a mediocre game. I do appreciate the CA team for trying their hardest to appease the fans, but I really don't think they developed it enough. I'd like to see everyone's opinions on the next total war and if it would be possible to expand from Shogun; possibly make an Asia: Total War? Asia has such a rich history, so many personalities to choose from, and so many violent and turbulent eras to work with that I can't possibly see a reason for why CA would pass up the opportunity to start working with Asia. And also, since I have asianic heritage, I'd rather like to have the opportunity to spread yellow fever across the entire Pacific, possibly into Europe. European Imperialism makes me angry and I want to carve up Europe with an Asian nation, damnit!
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    There has been numerous threads like this before. Usually people point out that the consumers are not as interested in Asian history as they might be in Roman history, Napoleonic Wars, and Medieval Europe.

    Also, what I usually say is that if the game becomes popular in Asia, more specifically in South East Asia or China, CA will not receive money from those regions anyway, due to the high amount of piracy there. There are vendors selling pirated CDs everywhere in those countries. Just like in Russia. Which is why Asia: or Russia: Total Wars are not coming out any time soon...

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    I would be happy with a (better) ETW that encompassed the whole world.
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    Rome 2 Total War, using the ETW engine, is the logical next step. Ancient naval battles would be really cool.
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    Have they finally managed to create a worthwhile diplomacy system at least?

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    I think they are running out of possibilities. They can't already go forward in history, because more recent ages have a totally different warfare and, as was pointed out, Asian history is not something they will be successful in selling. If there will be another Total War game it will most likely be Rome 3, or Dark Ages or something (considering that Dark Ages were only slightly covered by the BI add-on).

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    Quote Originally Posted by penguinking View Post
    Rome 2 Total War, using the ETW engine, is the logical next step. Ancient naval battles would be really cool.
    This may be cool, but that tech tree is not fun and the way you build things in the city and province needs a little work

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    I would like to see them hire the EB team to work for them as professional game designers so RTW2 would be a thing of beauty. Failing that, I just hope that whatever they release, they make it as moddable as possible so the afformentioned EB team we love so much can turn whatever piece of junk they release into a true historical simulation. That being said, I have no ill-will toward CA, without RTW there would be no EB. The most likely next step for CA will be a couple of expansions for ETW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by penguinking View Post
    Rome 2 Total War, using the ETW engine, is the logical next step. Ancient naval battles would be really cool.
    seconded.
    Rome will always sell.

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    word in the street is that the next title will be rome total war 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gourmet View Post
    Okay, I think by now, enough total war players have played Empire enough to know that it's a steaming pile of horse maneur. Naval combat is visually spectacular, but the land battles, lack of a multiplayer chatroom, lack of the option to input currency, ridiculously large and simplistic campaign map, and a number of bugs makes it a mediocre game. I do appreciate the CA team for trying their hardest to appease the fans, but I really don't think they developed it enough. I'd like to see everyone's opinions on the next total war and if it would be possible to expand from Shogun; possibly make an Asia: Total War? Asia has such a rich history, so many personalities to choose from, and so many violent and turbulent eras to work with that I can't possibly see a reason for why CA would pass up the opportunity to start working with Asia. And also, since I have asianic heritage, I'd rather like to have the opportunity to spread yellow fever across the entire Pacific, possibly into Europe. European Imperialism makes me angry and I want to carve up Europe with an Asian nation, damnit!
    You tried and failed.
    We absorbed or annihilated Asian attempts to enslave us.

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    If done well - Asia would be great. Problem is, I don't think it would be done well.

    To me - probably the worst design decision they made (and they started this route with BI) was to speed up the game. Less cities, faster turns, let's get to the action quickly. The 14 yr olds might get bored might be a sound marketing decision but makes (for me) a less involved and fun game. Might as well drop the campaign map entirely and just script a series of land or naval battles - ie. make it a pure action game.

    Steam, the tournaments, the general MP play - it seems to be where the focus is and lets face it - it's far cheaper and subject to less criticism overall (I'm guessing) than trying to program a decent AI on a complex and involved campaign map.

    EB - campaigns take weeks to months (for me.) Less time with vanilla but still days / weeks.

    ETW - finished in a day or 2.

    That's not an accident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IrishHitman View Post
    You tried and failed.
    We absorbed or annihilated Asian attempts to enslave us.

    VIVE L'EUROPE!

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    Funny, I'd always associated you with Britain, munky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antisocialmunky View Post
    There are still more of us than there are of you.
    You're not united :P
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    And your manufacturing capabilities are being transfered to Asia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by antisocialmunky View Post
    And your manufacturing capabilities are being transfered to Asia.
    No, that's just the US.
    We have Eastern Europe for all our cheap labour needs.
    Now they're whinging because we want it back.

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    Oh, really? >:D
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    I'm being silly because Irish is being silly. Don't take that as a cue for an outsourcing debate.
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