oh wow, this is just horrific...

[HoreTore]

Okay, so couldn't stop myself, I did click the link.

And here's the shocker: The report they're referencing can't be found on actionaid's homepage.... I'm shocked!

EDIT: Ah, I'm so sorry, I made the mistake of thinking that the Daily Mail is a newspaper, not an oldspaper. The report was released last November. 4 months ago.... Good going with the outrage yet again, Daily Mail. Always right on top of things

Now, could someone dig up a more intelligent article on this subject?

[tibilicus]

South Africa made their bed, let them sleep in it.

If they, as the electorate are stupid enough to vote for Zuma these things are going to continue to happen. The incident is disgusting but South Africa will only get worse.

[Major Robert Dump]

South Africa made their bed, let them sleep in it.

If they, as the electorate are stupid enough to vote for Zuma these things are going to continue to happen. The incident is disgusting but South Africa will only get worse.

Kind of hard to blame the citizens when the rulers of the continent come to power through force, fear and corruption.

Officials are treating them as hate crimes, not rapes. And hate crimes don't get priority.

While this is indeed a sad story, it's nothing but another excuse for the savages in Africa to rape women and girls. If all the lesbians left tomorrow, the rapes would continue with a different justification. Africa is the saddest place on earth, and I hope in my lifetime I get to see a major military power go in, kick the **** out of the warlords, and set up a clean, sterilized, civilized colony. Funny that hasn't happened yet, considering all the oil underneath it.

Africa is truly the last untamed frontier

[Banquo's Ghost]

Africa is the saddest place on earth, and I hope in my lifetime I get to see a major military power go in, kick the **** out of the warlords, and set up a clean, sterilized, civilized colony. Funny that hasn't happened yet, considering all the oil underneath it.

You are aware of what happened in the 19th century?

It gives me goosebumps when I read Americans appealing to imperialism. Replace Africa with America in the above paragraph and you will have a pretty good paraphrase of many British opinions of the 13 colonies, expressed again when you all went through your civil war.

Africa has many problems to solve, not least those imposed on the continent by past and continuing imperialism.

[Major Robert Dump]

You are aware of what happened in the 19th century?

It gives me goosebumps when I read Americans appealing to imperialism. Replace Africa with America in the above paragraph and you will have a pretty good paraphrase of many British opinions of the 13 colonies, expressed again when you all went through your civil war.

Africa has many problems to solve, not least those imposed on the continent by past and continuing imperialism.

i am very well aware of it, and it obviously didn't work, but it was also about money and empire, not about helping people. the tools are available today to do it more effectively, but my point was that it won't be done unless there is profit to be made for someone

seriously, though, somalia. it's not recognized by anyone. it sucks. exactly how much of an international outcry would ensue if, say, Bill Gates raised a private army, took the region by force, set up a giant city with giant walls and only let in women, children and men who were decent.

[Banquo's Ghost]

i am very well aware of it, and it obviously didn't work, but it was also about money and empire, not about helping people. the tools are available today to do it more effectively, but my point was that it won't be done unless there is profit to be made for someone

On the contrary, the White Man's Burden was a well established mission of the "enlightened" Empires. Siphoning off resources was considered "commission".

seriously, though, somalia. it's not recognized by anyone. it sucks. exactly how much of an international outcry would ensue if, say, Bill Gates raised a private army, took the region by force, set up a giant city with giant walls and only let in women, children and men who were decent.

Given Bill Gates' record in operating systems, I'd say Somalia already suffers enough from random crashes.

[KukriKhan]

On the contrary, the White Man's Burden was a well established mission of the "enlightened" Empires. Siphoning off resources was considered "commission".



Given Bill Gates' record in operating systems, I'd say Somalia already suffers enough from random crashes.

Nevertheless, I agree with the Major: give them thar layabouts real jobs, doing real work, making real product, earning real money, realizing real dignity, then voting in a real government that will help that cause, not hamper it.

Then, all they'll have to deal with are the few remaining crazies in their midst.

The question is: do it for them (to speed it up)? Or wait 'til they do it for themselves?

HSBC, General Electric, Toyota, Microsoft, AT&T, WalMart, Ford. Those seven companies alone could change the face of Africa in 5 years or less, and put it on-par with at least India & China.

[rasoforos]

Africa is the saddest place on earth, and I hope in my lifetime I get to see a major military power go in, kick the **** out of the warlords, and set up a clean, sterilized, civilized colony. Funny that hasn't happened yet, considering all the oil underneath it.

Yes that's what we did to Africa in the first place. It is the reason its the way it is today.

Clean and sterilized as in apartheid?

[rvg]

Yes, let's blame the whitey for the cultural degradation of South Africa. After all, it was us who instilled these values in the locals. I mean, heck, corrective rapes are norm in both Europe and North America.

[Lemur]

From the country that gave us Rapex, the anti-rape condom ...

[Aemilius Paulus]

From the country that gave us Rapex, the anti-rape condom ...

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Hehe, I was going to mention that in my previous post, but I decided against it, since it was you after all who introduced this phenomenon to the Backroom some time ago. It would be unfair to steal your "intellectual info" .

[Banquo's Ghost]

EDIT: Ah, I'm so sorry, I made the mistake of thinking that the Daily Mail is a newspaper, not an oldspaper. The report was released last November. 4 months ago.... Good going with the outrage yet again, Daily Mail. Always right on top of things

Now, could someone dig up a more intelligent article on this subject?

Perhaps The Guardian is more to your taste?