Battles B.C.

**Hax** · 03-15-2009, 00:02

Oh yeah? What kind of history? Vanilla RTW and more History Channel??

Name another game that included Hastati, Principes and Triarii.

**Cyrus** · 03-15-2009, 00:05

None AFAIK.
So some credit is due to CA......

**Aurgelmir** · 03-15-2009, 04:40

Originally Posted by Hax

Name another game that included Hastati, Principes and Triarii.

Grand Ages:Rome..?

I must say that the footage doesn't look bad...from a technical point of view.But that is the only (good) thing about it.

Imagine that there where no names involved,so no hannibal or cannea(is this correct spelling?)
And people had to guess...lol it looked like fantasy persians against fantasy greeks

10 years ago i wanted that docu's get good special effects,rather then c-acting barbarians vs (my gladius got stuck/my helmet falls off)romans

Now finally they have the shit what they need to do it.....and they fukk it up.Some historians should sew there asses for implanting false info to the young ones/unknowing olders

**Rilder** · 03-15-2009, 05:42

I wouldn't go far as suing, I would however try get and get them to put a disclaimer before the show starts that says "Warning nothing of what you are about to see is fact, if you want to know what really happened read about it at your local library or post about this show on the Europa Barbarorum forums and get told what really happened"

**A Very Super Market** · 03-15-2009, 05:50

Honestly, this is just "fake" awesomness as well, since I don't get a 300 feeling from it at all. Its a bit like an old man trying to win over teens by repeatedly saying "homeboy", or anything from Disney nowadays.

**Husker98** · 03-15-2009, 07:47

Originally Posted by Rilder

"Warning nothing of what you are about to see is fact, if you want to know what really happened read about it at your local library or post about this show on the Europa Barbarorum forums and get told what really happened"

i like ur disclaimer they need to use it. and another thing ppl watch alot of TV period. im in communications and journalism school and the rapid decline of news papers and other journalistic material has alot of my fellow students futures in doubt. a large percentage of people just dont read books anymore, especially history books. they, unlike us, find them boring. so i can see why history channel is trying to spice things up a bit but i am still disappointed, im mean y not us EB like they use to do with vanilla RTW on that ancient battle show? i forget the name of it but it was cool show were they used vanilla total war to show how the battle developed, and i was a frequent watcher.

**Aurgelmir** · 03-15-2009, 14:43

Originally Posted by Rilder

I wouldn't go far as suing, I would however try get and get them to put a disclaimer before the show starts that says "Warning nothing of what you are about to see is fact, if you want to know what really happened read about it at your local library or post about this show on the Europa Barbarorum forums and get told what really happened"

hm that makes me think...I guess they will do that disclaimer thing....is it an american show or british?

I think there will be people(historians)who are not happy with something like that.

**Africanvs** · 03-15-2009, 16:42

Someone earlier said something about not learning from TV but to pick up a book. They couldn't be more right. It might be interesting to note that THC is owned by General Electric Corp. who also owns NBC and several other networks and stations. GE is a corporation interested in profts. As far as TV is concerned, the point is to keep you entertained, so you tune in, and they can make ratings which translate to big advertising dollars. 300 was a popular movie which made a lot of money. The execs at THC, or whoever had the idea, figured that if they make a series based on a popular movie, it will get good ratings, just lke the spartan special they aired during the release of 300 did. Their job is not to be accurate, their job is to make money. There is crap peddled for truth on TV every day on the network news, why should the history channel be any different. Use TV for what it is, entertainment. But again, we should all be happy that we are intelligent enough to know the difference.

**satalexton** · 03-15-2009, 17:38

and woe to the sad fact that most of the world don't =[

**Aemilius Paulus** · 03-15-2009, 18:28

Originally Posted by satalexton

and woe to the sad fact that most of the world don't =[

Well, now, lets not turn into those elitists now. The world may not know history like we do, but they know other things. Everyone has their own interest, be it computers, machinery, agriculture, philosophy, anatomy, law, etc, etc. They too have their own elitist groups where they sit in a circle, one leg crossed on top of the other, and bemoan how uneducated the rest of the world is and how enlightened they are. No one likes such groups. No reason why we should turn into such.

No one can learn everything. Instead, people prioritise. And as far as education goes, sorry to say this, but history is basically the most impractical and useless thing to learn. I am an avid history fan. History is my life. Yet I recognise this fact to be true. There is some use in history, but compared to other things, it is basically useless.

**mlc82** · 03-15-2009, 07:25

Originally Posted by Hax

Name another game that included Hastati, Principes and Triarii.

The truly awesome yet barely remember "Great Battles of Hannibal" wargame. I've yet to find any other game that crashes so constantly on WinXP, along with the other excellent two in the series, Great Battles of Alexander and Caesar. I want to get a Win98 PC to play these and "Age of Rifles" again in their full glory.

Only ancient era games I've ever seen that give any sense of the real scale of some of those battles...