Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
What part of this is not a generalization?
You could say the same about ANY statement. If I say that Osama Bin Laden is bad, that is a generalisation. Does that make me wrong though? I believe the obvious point BG was trying to make was that it was an overgeneralization, which it is not.

Quote Originally Posted by pevergreen View Post
I'm 1/4 Jewish, I've attended Lutheran schooling for my entire life, yet it doesnt make me feel uncomfortable. Maybe its because im past the whole "OHMYGOSH ITS A GUY WITH A TURBAN! TERRORIST" that you seem to be at.

You are wrong Pever, I never felt that way and do not now. I used to be of the opinion that all religions were the same and that they were all peaceful. What I think of islam comes from reading about muhamed, reading the koran, and studying some of the hadiths. It is a very educated opinion...probably much more so than most/all of the muslims on this board, yours, and the moderators'. The opinion I expressed was not about muslims, but about the koran and muhamed.

Just as Monk said, you generalised.

Would you take everything the Old Testament said to heart? Everything was relevant a long time ago, times change.

If you take the line of anything in print is true, then Christianity supports slavery. It doesnt in reality, but you could say and provide evidence that it does.
This discussion was about islam, not Christianity, but I will answer this one point. It is different with the Old Testament, because what is in the old Testament are rules God gave for that particular people in that particular society. (Things that were later made void with the New Testament) The Old Testament is a history, not a guide on how to live. God does not say "Live like David" (whereas the koran does instruct muslems to live like muhamed, and says that he was perfect). The Bible says that everyone sins, and the only person the Bible tells you to live like is Christ Jesus, who was perfect, God in the flesh.
You actually help my arguement, look at the difference between who Christians are supposed to imitate and who muslims are. Muhammed had sex with a 9 year old girl, and was never supposed to commit a sin...in fact, muslims should strive to be like him. And you say that I am wrong by saying that islam is misogonistic? That is just sick. Muhamed also went on holy wars, murdered, ordered clandestine acts such as assasinations, raped, ordered his followers to treat women like property, etc. This is the guy muslims are ordered to be like. That right there proves my point.

That all aside though, I should not have to be having a religious debate with you here (as this is not the place), the Backroom (which is was banned from as the correct place). Because you do not share my religious views does not mean that you ban me, then discuss religion with me in the watchtower. If you disagreed with my views, why did you not discuss it in the Backroom (that is what it is there for). You know, in a religious debate, you are talking things that people devote their life to and feel strongly about, so in any religious debate people on both sides are going to be offended. If you get rid of 'offending' opinions, you get rid of debate. Do you think that people's anti-Christian arguments do not offend me to some degree? Of course they do, but I make the choice to either ignore them, or to debate it with them.
The difference is that it is politically correct to bash Christianity, but not to have negative opinions of islam. One of the things the Backroom is meant for is religious debate, you cannot selectively censor out people's opinions. My opinon is honest and heartfelt, and I do not think that I should not be allowed to express it on a forum devoted to religious debate. If you do not agree with it, either think less of me and move on, or debate it with me. Do not ban me because you do not agree with me.