Win Grand Campaign and nothing happens

**Kobal2fr** · 03-31-2009, 11:57

Originally Posted by AussieGiant

Yes certainly. Maintaining and Empire was regarded as much hard than building one. Of course I'm not sure whether that is a challenge in this game.

I hope you're playing on VH/VH, because that just might make it a little tough to hold onto everything once other super nations develop over time.

Precisely. And if CA knows anything about games, then completing your faction's winning goals will be a trigger for everyone else to band up and come at you from all sides. You know, like board game players who, when they realized they can't win, figure they still can mess with every one else's game (and more often than not, decide which player actually wins).

Whether the AI can pull this off efficiently is another matter, obviously. But the requirement of holding on to your winnings until the very end is pretty interesting.

And if you're just so ADD that you can't tolerate the idea of "clicking end turn 110 times" - just drop the campaign and consider you've won already.

**Dead Guy** · 03-31-2009, 12:09

Originally Posted by Kobal2fr

Precisely. And if CA knows anything about games, then completing your faction's winning goals will be a trigger for everyone else to band up and come at you from all sides. You know, like board game players who, when they realized they can't win, figure they still can mess with every one else's game (and more often than not, decide which player actually wins).

Whether the AI can pull this off efficiently is another matter, obviously. But the requirement of holding on to your winnings until the very end is pretty interesting.

And if you're just so ADD that you can't tolerate the idea of "clicking end turn 110 times" - just drop the campaign and consider you've won already.

Sadly that doesn't seem to be the case... France, Spain, GB and UP have all been hostile to me for 20 years and they still trade with me (GB & Spain) and have never attacked me. Only smaller nations seem happy to try to have a go at me. The most depressing thing to me is that there seems to be no wars going on at all almost, except when you decide to pummel someone. France and GB have been at war from the get go in my campaign and not a single province have changed hands in america although they have lots of bordering provinces. The only thing they do is GB pirating France's trade.

But if I don't complete the campaign for real I won't get the achievement on my awesome steam community page!!1 ;)

On topic: Sounds strange that you can't continue? When I completed the goals it merely said that if I kept my current territory until 1799 I would win (Of course I'm not about to settle for that). Do you instantly win the short campaign when you have enough land?

**loony** · 03-31-2009, 12:14

OK, maybe then I should explain the situation.
I play on VH/H (VH battles too quirky), as Great Britain.

There is one nation that could potentially hope to hurt me a little: the Spanish. They have their colonies in North America and still have Ceylon, however, I have broken Maratha already so I am the only superpower in the indian theater.
I control NA, cherokee, iroquis and Pirates are dead; UP are fighting the spanish, so they have crappy fleets sinking each other. I fund the UP so they constantly keep pressure on the spanish.

I have captured france, the small italian and german states; already protestant, all of them.
Russians are in a deadlock with the Ottomans, none of them developed.
Austria is being beaten by Prussians and Lithuanians; I keep 2 stacks in Austrian territory, capturing Prussian and Lithuanian cities and giving them to Austrians. Austrians keep losing them and I recapture them again. So eastern europe is in a constant state of war.

Swedish are at a grips with the danish. I fund cash to both so they have armies they cannot afford.

I do have 3 fleets of 1st and second rates as well as 3 fleets of 3-rates and smaller ships. I control all but the west africa trade theater (UP and the spanish are there).

I am researching the last 3 or 4 techs. My treasury is at 400 000+; I have metalled roads in all provinces... Even if I lose all trade income, i would still be able to wage war on all fronts as my tax income is giving me a 40 000 per turn profit.

Tell me, if I eliminate all other factions, maybe that lets me win earlier? I could surely do it in less than 110 turns.

**crpcarrot** · 03-31-2009, 14:56

how many turns have u played after acheiving victory conditions?

**AussieGiant** · 03-31-2009, 22:33

Originally Posted by loony

OK, maybe then I should explain the situation.
I play on VH/H (VH battles too quirky), as Great Britain.

There is one nation that could potentially hope to hurt me a little: the Spanish. They have their colonies in North America and still have Ceylon, however, I have broken Maratha already so I am the only superpower in the indian theater.
I control NA, cherokee, iroquis and Pirates are dead; UP are fighting the spanish, so they have crappy fleets sinking each other. I fund the UP so they constantly keep pressure on the spanish.

I have captured france, the small italian and german states; already protestant, all of them.
Russians are in a deadlock with the Ottomans, none of them developed.
Austria is being beaten by Prussians and Lithuanians; I keep 2 stacks in Austrian territory, capturing Prussian and Lithuanian cities and giving them to Austrians. Austrians keep losing them and I recapture them again. So eastern europe is in a constant state of war.

Swedish are at a grips with the danish. I fund cash to both so they have armies they cannot afford.

I do have 3 fleets of 1st and second rates as well as 3 fleets of 3-rates and smaller ships. I control all but the west africa trade theater (UP and the spanish are there).

I am researching the last 3 or 4 techs. My treasury is at 400 000+; I have metalled roads in all provinces... Even if I lose all trade income, i would still be able to wage war on all fronts as my tax income is giving me a 40 000 per turn profit.

Tell me, if I eliminate all other factions, maybe that lets me win earlier? I could surely do it in less than 110 turns.

Yes, well, that does seem like a dominant position from the explanation *grin*.

VH Campaign difficulty should give the AI the most chance of allying against you so that is solved.

I'd say you're just too good.

Give the Prestige type campaign a shot and switch to VH battles just to get the blood pumping on battles...the Prestige victory condition are not as straight forward and will have you thinking sometimes what you have to do to win.

**Familyguy1** · 03-31-2009, 23:45

My suggestion to all of you. Go over to twc forums and the Empire modding forums. Darthmod created a mod that is superb and fixes alot, plus there are other types. I am currently playing as the Cherokee nations of VH/H and Ive taken half of the U.S

**Mailman653** · 04-01-2009, 05:09

I lost a campaign and got a (laggy) ending video and the chance to continue my game.

So surely when you win you'll get a nifty video as well

**HahnHolio** · 04-01-2009, 11:08

hm...well, its kinda stupid, that if you win your GC literally 'nothing' happens.

you have won!

grand ... i would have loved to see unlocking something by winning a GC, but nothing like that!

does anyone know if CA has plans to add something in future patches/expansions, that will yield a bit of replay value to the game? right now you can attain the victory conditions for every major faction within like 20-30 gameturns and then just conquor more or stay put, hitting end turn, until the campaign ends ... not satisfying at all ...

cheers

HahnHolio

**Beskar** · 04-01-2009, 14:03

When you get your victory conditions, it is game over and you get a cheer, etc.
As for conquering the world, damn, that is a hard task to do. Though at the moment, the AI is taking so long to do its turns, it is insane.