The fight for Inishmore [Concluded]

[Andres]

I note with pleasure that you do no longer consider both godfathers, LittleGrizzly and 'khaan, as suspects.

Indeed, dear townies, it is time to lynch those men who have led you into the wrong direction during the entire game, Sasaki, boudica and Askthepizzaguy. This charade has been going on for long enough now. How about you put those three in a tie and get rid of them now!

You have been worthy adversaries and deserve our respect

[White_eyes:D]

I note with pleasure that you do no longer consider both godfathers, LittleGrizzly and 'khaan, as suspects.

Indeed, dear townies, it is time to lynch those men who have led you into the wrong direction during the entire game, Sasaki, boudica and Askthepizzaguy. This charade has been going on for long enough now. How about you put those three in a tie and get rid of them now!

You have been worthy adversaries and deserve our respect

I hate to say it....but I agree with Andres on this one...

[boudica]

I accused Sasaki of being Oswald, and boudica of being his Godfather partner. I would obviously be more interested in boudica, because Boudica CANNOT be Oswald due to the investigation.

You can lynch me at any time. But you should have done that a LONG time ago. Now it's time to give me one moment to state my case against boudica, and please pay attention to why I am not going after Sasaki yet.

Boudica needs to be properly questioned. If she satisfies my suspicions, Sasaki is next.





By the way, thanks for the compliment. If I'm a Godfather, as LittleGrizzly said, I have not big brass balls, but balls made of diamonds. I appreciate the compliment but it's entirely untrue. You kick me in the balls, they will shatter.

Please go ahead and properly question me. If you want proper answers then you'll probably have to wait until I can make some informed responses and that means doing some serious catching up.

Given that I am innocent of your accusations, (well - I know I am) my first research will involve trying to find out why you think I am guilty - first by looking at your posts with the point of view of you being town and secondly by looking at your posts with the notion that you are not.

As far as your balls are concerned, a bluff is a bluff is a bluff and - in poker at least - often only the big bluffs work.

[Andres]

1.Oswald killed Andres....even though he tried to kill him. (Meaning, the English Godfather has been doing the kills)

Ah, Oswald is a Godfather. Who would have thought...

And sir, you are wrong in your assertion as if I tried to kill one of the esteemed inhabitants of this lovely village. My hands are clean in this game. There's not a drip of blood on them.

I am insulted

2.You will never pin Sasaki.....and for all your "talk" about him manipulating you....your not eager to see him lynched....

Nonono, Mister White_Eyes:D, you haven't been paying attention to the most sound and solid case ever made against the honorable Sasaki by the grand inquisitor Pizzaguy, namely:

Sasaki is guilty because...

HE MADE SPELLING MISTAKES AND NEEDS A NEW KEYBOARD !!!

Lynch him!

[Askthepizzaguy]

@White_Eyes

Your not framing me Vote:White_eyes:D

Right before the lynch.

*sighs*.....I am getting tired of this....but nothing I can do about it...Unvote:White_eyes:D Vote:FactionHeir

Right after time expired.

I was nowhere to be found, and NO ONE could have predicted your actions. No one could fathom your actions. I do not have the power to see into the future and know that you'd kill two townies by yourself as a townie.


@Boudica:

You've been bluffing with the best of them this game. "Go ahead and lynch me" next post "Please don't lynch me" later "Can I commit suicide?" I'm such a bad townie for not paying attention, etc, etc.



Doesn't take any research at all to know why I'd accuse you. You've been accusing yourself.

[White_eyes:D]

How could I predict our host would use the forbidden rule in most Mafia games...."It's a tie....everyone diesMHAHAHAHA"

Edit:that's close to allowing Sceenshots....

[Andres]

I can't believe you guys are not lynching Sasaki. With the amount of spelling mistakes he made and his old, rotten, with bacteria infested keyboard.

Townie, mafia or neutral, he should get lynched because of that. This goes beyond this one game. Before you know it, you catch up a disease because of his keyboard or you starts makeing silli speling mistaekes.

[Askthepizzaguy]

How could I predict our host would use the forbidden rule in most Mafia games...."It's a tie....everyone diesMHAHAHAHA"

THAT one I don't blame you for. Not one bit. In the future, lesson learned... don't cap yourself in a double lynch situation. Town will thank you for it.


@Boudica:

Your performance this game is, in my opinion, indefensible. You did everything you could to avoid suspicion, and now it has backfired.

[White_eyes:D]

THAT one I don't blame you for. Not one bit. In the future, lesson learned... don't cap yourself in a double lynch situation. Town will thank you for it.


@Boudica:

Your performance this game is, in my opinion, indefensible. You did everything you could to avoid suspicion, and now it has backfired.

I will just nag hosts to NEVER use it in the future.....it only makes the game faster...and gives one side a unfair advantage over another...

Why boudica??? I see nothing solid.....it feels like a Reenk case all over again...

Edit:but then again your no match for Sasaki....speaking of which.....when Khaan tried to vote Sasaki all those times....you didn't follow.... more proof you guys are working together....

[Askthepizzaguy]

Please go ahead and properly question me. If you want proper answers then you'll probably have to wait until I can make some informed responses and that means doing some serious catching up.

If you need to seriously catch up, then why, oh why, do you seem to know the correct path forward so well?

Given that I am innocent of your accusations, (well - I know I am) my first research will involve trying to find out why you think I am guilty - first by looking at your posts with the point of view of you being town and secondly by looking at your posts with the notion that you are not.

I cannot wait to hear this!

As far as your balls are concerned, a bluff is a bluff is a bluff and - in poker at least - often only the big bluffs work.

You are not as innocent as you've been acting. You know all about big bluffs. If you were mafia, given how often you've been mafia, and how people have been suspecting you lately, you'd have to bluff pretty big to survive.



@White_Eyes.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

1. She said "lynch me"
2. Shortly after: "don't lynch me"
3. Acts like she's lost. She never does this as townie.
4. She offered to suicide when she was a serious suspect.
5. She claims to not have gotten caught up yet, but knows that Seireikhaan must be guilty or a neutral role. How would she know that if she weren't paying attention?
6. She was here, right after the writeup, not her usual time.
7. She voted for Sasaki without giving reasons. And hasn't gone after him since.
8. Her votes, other than on sasaki, have all been on innocent people, mostly dead ones.
9. She's been putting herself down. Not her style.
10. She could write the Oswald kill, I believe, but by investigation, she's not Oswald.
11. Sasaki isn't going after her.
12. Boudica is not Oswald, therefore she could be a Godfather
13. Oswald is NOT the Godfather, you're not paying attention; he's been doing the English kills since round one. The Godfathers cannot murder.
14. I laid out a huge case, please read it.

[White_eyes:D]

Sasaki laid out his case....in such a way I would really read it.....but your case on boudica seems a little weak..... I get the impression she is a townie who is confused, sort of like I was in "Chicago Soiree"

[Askthepizzaguy]

Edit:but then again your no match for Sasaki....speaking of which.....when Khaan tried to vote Sasaki all those times....you didn't follow.... more proof you guys are working together....

Not proof. Evidence. Circumstantial evidence, which is not conclusive at all.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Did you hear me when I said I thought boudica was the Godfather, and that Sasaki could be Oswald, which means he's less of a priority than the Godfather?

1. You claim Sasaki and I are mafia together.
2. I claim Sasaki is Oswald and accuse him.
3. I would therefore be the Godfather, which I am not, because even I would not be this risky with my life as a Godfather. I even joke "revealed" as the Godfather twice, and invited votes on me, and asked them to be stripped off of boudica. That would make me a henchman.
4. Sasaki would then be the Godfather. But, he's one of the few remaining suspects to be Oswald.
5. Lynch the Godfather.

I accused Boudica of being English mafia's leader. Seireikhaan is also a candidate for that. I am taking the time to respond to your accusation, because with a little deduction, you can see it's false.

I welcome your questions. But you have arrived at a conclusion without looking at all the possibilities. For one moment, set aside your conclusion and think; is there another one? Consider all possibilities objectively. I would not mind Sasaki dead one bit, but I am holding off on my vote because I accused boudica, and want to hear from Seireikhaan. I won't bend to your pressure to vote for Sasaki because I think he's a henchman.

And if town thinks he's a Godfather, they can lynch him all they please, with my blessing and vote, too.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Vote: LittleGrizzly

Sorry Grizz, guilty by association. I believe Andres's assertions that you're the English Godfather is meant to throw us off track. I'll bet you anything that you're the Irish Godfather. Why else did pevergreen, who has gotten agitated about people breaking the "dead rules" previously in the game, leave that "incriminating PM" in?

Because it's a fake. Andres is trying to psych us all out.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Andres is trying to psych us all out.

Precisely. And look how you've reacted. Why on earth did you even read his posts?

Remember the Prometheus game. Andres is pulling a ME. Ignore him.

[Andres]

Vote: LittleGrizzly

Sorry Grizz, guilty by association. I believe Andres's assertions that you're the English Godfather is meant to throw us off track. I'll bet you anything that you're the Irish Godfather. Why else did pevergreen, who has gotten agitated about people breaking the "dead rules" previously in the game, leave that "incriminating PM" in?

Because it's a fake. Andres is trying to psych us all out.

I explicitly asked our esteemed host if it was ok to quote pm's in the thread after dead:

Evidence:

Is quoting pm's in the thread after dead allowed?

A.

Yes.

pÆvergreen

Anyway, good sir, you, as an upstanding citizen of Inishmore are doing the RIGHT THING. Lynch the English scumbag that is LittleGrizzly. This has taken long enough.

And lynch Sasaki! We cannot allow old and dirty keyboards and silly spelling mistakes! Think about the children!

[GeneralHankerchief]

I think not. Besides, boudica appears to be nothing more than a "next in line" lynch.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Remember the Prometheus game. Andres is pulling a ME. Ignore him.

I checked, you weren't in that game. I messed with the town after I was dead. Got Chaotix to basically get himself lynched, and YLC nearly did the same thing after listening to me. Everything a dead mafioso says is WIFOM.... it's not always what you think it is. Sure, Andres is saying Grizz is guilty so that you assume he's using reverse psychology. But he also assumes you're smart enough to assume that, and so on.

I realize my saying this will not even make you budge. So I will use reverse psychology to "make you keep your vote on him."

LittleGrizzly is guilty... lynch him.

[Andres]

I checked, you weren't in that game. I messed with the town after I was dead. Got Chaotix to basically get himself lynched, and YLC nearly did the same thing after listening to me. Everything a dead mafioso says is WIFOM.... it's not always what you think it is. Sure, Andres is saying Grizz is guilty so that you assume he's using reverse psychology. But he also assumes you're smart enough to assume that, and so on.

I realize my saying this will not even make you budge. So I will use reverse psychology to "make you keep your vote on him."

LittleGrizzly is guilty... lynch him.

Why would an innocent townie feel the need to use reverse psychology?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Why would an innocent townie feel the need to use reverse psychology?

To make a joke, and to undo the terrible wrong you inflicted on him.

Why would a mafioso be "trying to help the town?"

[Andres]

To make a joke, and to undo the terrible wrong you inflicted on him.

Why would a mafioso be "trying to help the town?"

I don't want to help the town, but town and I have one goal in common: to get rid of the English mafia. Their Godfather is with a very high probability LittleGrizzly.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I don't want to help the town, but town and I have one goal in common: to get rid of the English mafia. Their Godfather is with a very high probability LittleGrizzly.

Your goal is to cause as much confusion and destruction as possible. Your goals have nothing to do with the town's goals.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Boudica:

You finished your research yet, or are you just lurking? I see you going offline, coming online, and going offline again.

You're not "catching up on reading" to present any case at all.


Today, 07:15 (my time)

Please go ahead and properly question me. If you want proper answers then you'll probably have to wait until I can make some informed responses and that means doing some serious catching up.

It is now 8:45 (my time)

What is your response?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Well. I've certainly read a lot of silly nonsense. I'll write up my case when I can get some breakfast.

edit: pizza, wouldn't you agree that it's best for the town to keep everything concise and readable?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Life: Diana

[Andres]

Well. I've certainly read a lot of silly nonsense. I'll write up my case when I can get some breakfast.

Cover your keyboard while eating, will ya. Or else we'll have to lynch you for reasons of hygiene...

[ULC]

I checked, you weren't in that game. I messed with the town after I was dead. Got Chaotix to basically get himself lynched, and YLC nearly did the same thing after listening to me. Everything a dead mafioso says is WIFOM.... it's not always what you think it is. Sure, Andres is saying Grizz is guilty so that you assume he's using reverse psychology. But he also assumes you're smart enough to assume that, and so on.

I realize my saying this will not even make you budge. So I will use reverse psychology to "make you keep your vote on him."

LittleGrizzly is guilty... lynch him.

Hey, I can conclusively say I knew Reenk reveal was false - However, my strategy for insuring the town would believe me flopped, horribly. It was the only game I felt slightly bitter about after the end.

Why would an innocent townie feel the need to use reverse psychology?

Yes, because innocence is your middle name.

Seriously, we have a 9 players left, with 4 mafia - it's extremely unlikely we will lynch a townie.

4 Townies
4 Mafia
1 Neutral Role

Look at that.

I'd like to ask, look at who is still alive, and their status.

ATPG - has been active all game, under constant suspicion, and has done his own independant work (whther he was right or wrong). Cannot be English mafia, since he was after Ituralde and did everything he could to be lynched even while others ignored his case for the most part, and if he was, there was no need for it. Possible Irish mafia, will look into it more.

Seireikhaan - The neutral role. His name is not English, this excludes him from being English mafia. He was attacked by the Irish mafia - if Godfather's can survive one night kill, this makes no sense. It exposes the Godfather meaning the English know where their target is - simply put, it's a stupid move.

Sasaki - He's not dead yet. That doesn't make him suspicious by itself, but say, if he was actually on the right track, the mafia would remove him. Sasaki can swing people with his vote - remove that vote, and Sasaki becomes less potent and less convincing, which is good for the mafia despite possible blame shifting to them. One might say that makes him good lynch bait, but we have two families, meaning that you simply can't take that risk since the other mafia will only be to happy to jump onbaord as a voting block - to retaliate would be to reveal to much. Plus, Sasaki, the whole game, has never been good lynch bait, until now.

Boudica - Essentially lurked the whole game, gave poor reasoning for most of her votes, used poor logic to essentially keep herself alive. Sasaki has always done a good job of saying to ATPG "Hey, yea, she such a good suspect...but, look, there is this other guy, and he a tad shadier...trust me", constantly being loud enough to pull ATPG away. Boudica is also using Psycho mafia as an excuse, when the game ended the 26th (if she was following along the whole time - otherwise, her participation should have spiked the 10th, when she was lynched ), yet, she only suddenly became active today, when the game is on the line...how..interesting...yes. It does not take 5 days to catch up on a game, it takes hours. I read through the entire Midgard threads, both of them, in one day, while still doing other things, such as school work. Not a good excuse.

El Diablo - Has basically avoided the WoG (not very well), thats his major contribution. Mostly likely townie, since thats how ED behaves if roleless, also, mafia in a setup like this avoid Wog bait like the devil, since their kills need to count. Better to try and get the town to "lynch the lurker" during the day.

LittleGrizzly - I have actually ignored the bantering going back and forth between him and Sasaki. The issue is, LG responses are intune with how he is each game he plays - he is an easy target for an inquisition by someone like Sasaki. He is naturally defensive, refines his responses in an attempt to be clearer each time, has a tendency not to check up on his facts, and is mostly reactive - thats not Godfather material or behavior, especially for this long. The only reason the mafia would keep him alive is as lynch bait, some way for the town to waste their votes, since killing him removes his purpose - to hide behind. Godfathers need to check their facts, and be able to present their case in a good way when questioned - a less then solid defense makes them, and their team, vulnerable to the town and the other mafia. The very reasons Sasaki has been touting as reasons to lynch LG are the very reasons he is not what Sasaki says he is (nor Andres).

Lord Winter - Read El Diablo - however, it has been put forth LW could and can write the Oswald write ups, so that is something to think about. I will say LW did vote just like boudica - voting for the dead . Lord Winter needs questioned, but he is "never around" to be questioned, just as he is barely around to stay away from the wog and cast a useless vote.

Diana Abnoba - Um...we have a new player stil alive? How o.O!? Either she is more then what she appears, or the mafia skip over he because she isn't threatening to them. But, as a townie vote that generally goes along with ATPG, that makes me wonder...

GeneralHanckerchief - Sorry to forget about you , be nice. GH has, for the most part, given off almost no mafia vibes. However, he has posted carefully, and conscisly, and has worked with the detective. If he is a Godfather, this is an excellent postion, since it allows him to find the other mafia group. Since he comes off as innocent, he could at the very least try to pass himself off as a townie. Having come out and accused WE of being possible scum, one might look at it as if GH is putting himself out their a bit to much.

[LittleGrizzly]

Sorry Grizz, guilty by association. I believe Andres's assertions that you're the English Godfather is meant to throw us off track. I'll bet you anything that you're the Irish Godfather.

Ohh great lets make our votes based off scum posts, even if we assume the opposite is true... isn't Andres smart enough to use reverse physcology ? by the looks of things yes, what i didn't expect was that anyone would fall for it...

GH seriously ask yourself why Im not getting attack by mafia after being revealed as the godfather...

Yet both sets of mafia keep me alive... why ? probably because they now im just a bloody townie who is up well high on the lynch bait list....

Im not sure on anyone... even pizza who is backing my case now... the only thing i maintain any level of certainty on is Sasaki's guilt

I will happily offer the town my life if Sasaki turns out to be innocent... but im almost sure... he is scum!

If we can lynch Sasaki this turn... and he isn't a named character... i will begin the voting on littlegrizzly and not move it unless everyone else is sure my potential lynch rival is scum...

[seireikhaan]

Good grief people, some folks need some sleep.

Anyways, yes, I am Heilyn. I challenge you to find an englishman named Heilyn. You won't. That's because I'm just a Welsh champ who got caught in the crossfire, like you. I'm just looking to get outta this hellhole of Inishmore.

Death: Diana
Vote: Boudica

[Askthepizzaguy]

Ok.

You are claiming to be neutral, then? What are your victory conditions?

[seireikhaan]

Living. Don't matter who else wins, as long as I'm alive.