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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheogorath View Post
    Just imagine if the Europeans hadn't had smallpox on their side.
    Don't forget liquor!
    Its how they kept us Irish under control, too drunk to fight!
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    The Dam Dog Senior Member Sheogorath's Avatar
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    Default Re: I Didnt know the American Indians fought in rank and file formation!

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    Don't forget liquor!
    Its how they kept us Irish under control, too drunk to fight!
    This plan cannot fail
    Tallyho lads, rape the houses and burn the women! Leave not a single potted plant alive! Full speed ahead and damn the cheesemongers!

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    Default Re: I Didnt know the American Indians fought in rank and file formation!

    I thought the Irish got a powerlevel of over 9000 when they got drunk.
    Fighting isn't about winning, it's about depriving your enemy of all options except to lose.



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    Only for the fists, there is a 50% penalty to your gravity.
    And when the brazen cry of achilles
    Was heard among the trojans, all their hearts
    Were troubled, and the full-maned horses whirled
    The chariots backward, knowing griefs at hand...

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    And to your gravitas.

    *sniggers*

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    Default Re: I Didnt know the American Indians fought in rank and file formation!

    They learned their lessons well and stayed well away from such tactics. The Europeans however took extremely long to learn to use light infantry tactics when the indians no longer wanted to meet them head on. There is a reason the 13 colonies didn't stretch very far inland... The powerful indian conferderacies that gave out black eyes left and right if groups of settlers decided to go too far.
    I wouldn't say: extremely long to learn to use light infantry tactics. A good book on the subject is here. Certainly the Europeans beat the Natives surprisingly quite often on their own game in warfare, just take the "savage" raids against indian villages with mostly woman and children.


    I do think that the indian factions have a little too many muskets, but at the same time they have no good musket infantry. Give them high accuracy and high reload, but no better range than now to simulate their poorer weapons in general. And all are light infantry with skimishing and light inf tactics. That would make them scary.
    I'm not sure about the fast reloading part, but accurate musket/rifle fire, skirmishing and light infantry tactics should be a must for them. Rapid movement on and off the battlefield and a certain chance to detect ambushes would also make sense.
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    The point about long to learn was that it took the Europeans hundreds of years moving out of ither little 'strip' of land. When I say it took them long it was about the actual combat, not warfare. There they always had the upper hand due to numbers and basically being more ruthless and not to good to actually go back on agreements in a big way. They were used to big scale warfare from hundreds of years of practice in Europe. But actual fighting group vs group here and there, it took time. Yes certain units were created like the Rangers, but they were rather few. Now one could technically argue that there wasn't a need for more since numbers carried such a weight that the light infantry tactics couldn't stop them, only annoy and cause casualties. But eventually they would get there most of the time. And they did as far as I have understood.
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