View Poll Results: Should U.S Citizens give up their "right"?

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Thread: U.S Citizens right to own a firearm debate

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    Default Re : Re: U.S Citizens right to own a firearm debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro View Post
    1) People have the right to life
    2) Alcohol being legal leads to drunk driving accidents
    3) Therefore, alcohol should be banned

    Do you agree with the conclusion?
    Driving while being intoxicated or drunk is indeed banned. Difference here is that neither alcohol nor car are designed to kill or hurt people/living beings.

    Now you can argue that as much as you want, use the good old "Guns don't kill people, people do" or whatever. But guns are made to hurt and kill people, nothing else.

    Then, you might feel you have an innate right to bear gun (lol), fair enough. To each his own. As I said, I couldn't give a damn about it.
    My simple opinion is that:
    1. tools specifically designed and produced to harm and kill people should not be widely available in a democracy.
    2. the "it's to prevent tyranny" arguement is a flawed and ridiculous one, mostly made by people who were 100% behind Bush and his policy.


    Quote Originally Posted by Spino"
    Yes but at some point in our country's history liberalism became conservatism (the new 'classical liberalism'). Don't ask me why or when....
    Simply because liberalism is from the beginning a conservative idea. For a while it pretended to be progressive and modern ideology, but as soon as it had to face other modern ideologies such as Republicanism (not american republicanism, mind you, I'm talking about the philosophy), socialism and radicalism, it shown its true color.

    Now, the question is, if you consider the democrats to be conservative, what are the conservatives/republican?
    Last edited by Meneldil; 04-09-2009 at 16:06.

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