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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
    Are you suggesting that insulting, dismissive rhetoric out of North Korea and Iran is a new development? Explain, please.
    Their rhetoric will remain insulting and dismissive regardless of what stance we take towards them, therefore there's no reason to play nice with them: they will not reciprocate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rvg View Post
    Their rhetoric will remain insulting and dismissive regardless of what stance we take towards them, therefore there's no reason to play nice with them: they will not reciprocate.
    No reason to play tough with them, they won't change their ways?

    This is a non issue. Right wing people like to see their president act tough, left wing people like to seem him be "diplomatic". If it's just acting either way, what's the difference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro View Post
    No reason to play tough with them, they won't change their ways?
    Oh, you'll be surprised by just how well the *stick* approach works. The problem is that when it comes to North Korea, *our* stick isn't long enough. China and Russia (if they had the will to do it), could easily choke Kim's regime within months.
    "And if the people raise a great howl against my barbarity and cruelty, I will answer that war is war and not popularity seeking. If they want peace, they and their relatives must stop the war." - William Tecumseh Sherman

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    Are you suggesting that insulting, dismissive rhetoric out of North Korea and Iran is a new development? Explain, please.
    Thats easy to explain .
    When N.Korea previously did its "bugger off we can do what we like..but please send us food" line it was because they have this crazy shortarse running the country , but now when they say it its because of Obama .
    When Iran said "bugger off , lift the sanctions and give us our money back " it was because they were pissed at America , now when they say " nice words , but we want action not words so bugger off , lift the sanctions and give us our money back" its because of Obama .

    Surely you can understand that Lemur , after all it make perfect sense .

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