Disabling Vanilla Marian Reform requirements

[goosejn]

what about the units themselves. for example, for the later Saka bodyguards and Baktrian Bodyguards, their apprearance is contigent upon this happening. if i can't speed it up by adding population, can i turn off that requirement for specific units?

[bobbin]

what about the units themselves. for example, for the later Saka bodyguards and Baktrian Bodyguards, their apprearance is contigent upon this happening. if i can't speed it up by adding population, can i turn off that requirement for specific units?

For the bodyguard units you need to edit the EDU entry by replacing the general_unit_upgrade atribuite with general_unit, I'll use Baktria as an example.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

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type             hellenic cavalry hetairoi kataphraktoi
dictionary       hellenic_cavalry_hetairoi_kataphraktoi      ; Hetairoi Kataphraktoi
category         cavalry
class            heavy
voice_type       General_1
soldier          hellenistic_cavalry_hetairoi_kataphractoi, 10, 0, 1
mount            grivpanvar horse
mount_effect     elephant -1, chariot +2
attributes       sea_faring, hide_forest, general_unit
formation        1.5, 4, 3, 6, 4, square
stat_health      1, 1
stat_pri         5, 47, no, 0, 0, melee, blade, piercing, spear, 200 ,0.4
stat_pri_attr    ap
stat_sec         11, 28, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, slashing, sword, 0 ,0.11
stat_sec_attr    ap
stat_pri_armour  29, 10, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour  0, 0, flesh
stat_heat        5
stat_ground      0, 0, -4, -1
stat_mental      18, disciplined, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay  0
stat_food        60, 300
stat_cost        1, 2924, 0, 80, 100, 2924
ownership        romans_brutii

and then disable the early bodyguards by deleting the general_unit attribute

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

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type             hellenistic cavalry baktrian bodyguard
dictionary       hellenistic_cavalry_baktrian_bodyguard      ; Somatophylakes Strategou (Baktrian Early Bodyguard)
category         cavalry
class            heavy
voice_type       General_1
soldier          hellenistic_cavalry_baktrianbodyguard_kambojas, 10, 0, 1
mount            half armoured horse
mount_effect     elephant -1, chariot +2
attributes       sea_faring, hide_forest, hardy
formation        1.5, 4, 3, 6, 4, square
stat_health      1, 1
stat_pri         5, 39, no, 0, 0, melee, blade, piercing, spear, 180 ,0.38
stat_pri_attr    ap
stat_sec         11, 22, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, slashing, sword, 0 ,0.11
stat_sec_attr    ap
stat_pri_armour  14, 13, 3, metal
stat_sec_armour  0, 0, metal
stat_heat        4
stat_ground      0, 0, -4, -1
stat_mental      16, disciplined, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay  0
stat_food        60, 300
stat_cost        1, 2040, 0, 40, 60, 2040
ownership        romans_brutii

Just do the same with the respective bodyguards for the other factions and your laughing.

[goosejn]

have you tried this for yourself?

[goosejn]

i forgot to also ask....using the example of bactria, if i follow your suggestion, which bodyguard will show up, the early, or the katphraktoi?

[bobbin]

i forgot to also ask....using the example of bactria, if i follow your suggestion, which bodyguard will show up, the early, or the katphraktoi?

The Hetairoi Kataphraktoi wil be the bodyguard. I have done it myself.

One thing to note is that if you do this in a current game only generals that come of age after the change is made will get the Kataphraktoi bodyguards.

Also it has occured to me that if you start a new campaign your starting generals will have the old bodyguards as well, to change that you need to edit the descr_strat file.

[Zim]

Is there a list of factions that get units from the vanilla Marian Reforms? I didn't see one in the reforms section of the FAQ thread.

I'm thinking of starting an Epirus campaign and creating an empire in Italy but don't want to miss out (or have potential opponents not get the units if they'd make a big difference).

[A Very Super Market]

Everyone that does not have their own reform requirements uses the March of Time as a reference.

Bobbin, I once had a mercenary Eastern General that suddenly gained Baktrian cataphract bodyguards when the reform came...