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    Tunis was ruled by the Hammadids, along with the Algiers coast. Everything up until Fes/(Fas).
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    The Almohads crushed both the Almoravids and the Hammadids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolt View Post
    The Almohads crushed both the Almoravids and the Hammadids.
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    Which is why I signed up for Almohads, the possible changing of history. I think the Moors should be able to have some North African holdings, but it's clear history. I'm not trying to be a jerk, but fact is fact, the Moors in this IH were completely crushed and replaced with Almohads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KarlXII View Post
    This ^

    Which is why I signed up for Almohads, the possible changing of history. I think the Moors should be able to have some North African holdings, but it's clear history. I'm not trying to be a jerk, but fact is fact, the Moors in this IH were completely crushed and replaced with Almohads.
    Well what time in the reconquiesta are we talking? I just need to get the names right

    if this mod I played had any accuracy it is that an orange faction starts with almost half of spain and some of north africa, below them there is a burgundy faction, much smaller (put them in as faz) hammamids i do not know...it wasn't even in it.....
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    Around 1150. However, El Cid and independent Valencia were long gone by then.
    The problem lies in the fact that only if we do the "What if" and his son is still alive and defeated the moors so far, because El Cid's eldest duaghter married a noble whose son became King of Navarra, and his second daughter married the count of Barcelona, whose descendants were only daughters. The only paths to continue the lineage of El Cid is either:

    1. Diego Rodriguez actually surviving his battle of Consuegra, succeeding after El Cid dies, and keeping the Muslims at bay, while conquering the Baleares. But most probably by 1150 he too would have already died. To follow this line you would have to invent a son of Diego Rodriguez
    2. His wife succeeding him as historically happened, keeping the moors at bay and conquering the Baleares, then using the Semi-Salic succession law to get the historical elder male descendant from El Cid traceable through females, making him descendant of El Cid through his mother (Jimena, granddaughter of El Cid, second daughter of Maria and Ramon Berenger III of Barcelona, married to Bernard III of Foix) and his grandmother (Maria, second daughter of El Cid, married to Ramon Berenger III of Barcelona). He is Roger Bernard I, Count of Foix. He was 18 years old in 1150 and therefore able to be "King of Valencia".

    The Almoravids ruled Morroco, Fez and Al-Andaluz. The Hammadids ruled Algiers and Tunis. The Almohads came from the Atlas Mountains (Within Morroco) and defeated the Almoravids in Morroco, then defeated the Hammadids, thus ruling Morroco, Fez, Algiers, Tunis and Al-Andaluz.
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    Nevermind, already participating in too many things as it is.
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    The rules seem rather simple. I would suggest some things to add variety (Especially in the troops thingie, since only three types seems rather simplistic) but then again more complexity means more work for you, so I'll stick with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolt View Post
    Tunis was ruled by the Hammadids, along with the Algiers coast. Everything up until Fes/(Fas).
    Couldn't I just change sicily to the hammadids and leave the rest 'moors' I don't want to mess around with demon archangels role too much......

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    Well, at least you'd now have 3 islamic factions with two of them being large in size, instead of being one huge one and two small ones. In any case, do as you like.
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    I'' compromise, I'll give them two, lucky warman

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