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    I don't think that it is even technically part of the Balkans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars View Post
    I don't think that it is even technically part of the Balkans.
    Dang!

    Oh well, it's not like anyone cares about eastern europe either, so....
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    I get the feeling that you hate geography and demography, Horetore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Dang!

    Oh well, it's not like anyone cares about eastern europe either, so....
    It's a good thing so many people care about Scandinavia... I spent entire day scratching my scrotum and thinking about it...

    Just because you think you're better than anyone else and don't give a **** about Balkans, eastern Europe or whatever part of the world you don't deem civilized or worthy enough of being graced by your thoughts, it doesn't mean that people everywhere else are like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    It's a good thing so many people care about Scandinavia... I spent entire day scratching my scrotum and thinking about it...

    Just because you think you're better than anyone else and don't give a **** about Balkans, eastern Europe or whatever part of the world you don't deem civilized or worthy enough of being graced by your thoughts, it doesn't mean that people everywhere else are like that.
    You have to admit, much of this is just petty nationalism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    It's a good thing so many people care about Scandinavia... I spent entire day scratching my scrotum and thinking about it...

    Just because you think you're better than anyone else and don't give a **** about Balkans, eastern Europe or whatever part of the world you don't deem civilized or worthy enough of being graced by your thoughts, it doesn't mean that people everywhere else are like that.
    Other than war, ethnic nationalism and genocide, what has the Balkans shown for itself lately?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KarlXII View Post
    Other than war, ethnic nationalism and genocide, what has the Balkans shown for itself lately?
    Hey man, Eastern European women a HOT. Especially when they speak english with that accent. I'll be part of there gulag any time.

    What has Sweeden shown besides Ikea and ripping off the Italians (one of Gods choosen people) with there subpar meatballs.
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    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    Hey man, Eastern European women a HOT. Especially when they speak english with that accent. I'll be part of there gulag any time.

    What has Sweeden shown besides Ikea and ripping off the Italians (one of Gods choosen people) with there subpar meatballs.
    Touche, but I don't get pissy when someone mentions it. Also, the Swedes aren't killing the Norwegians and the Norwegians aren't killing the Danes because of petty nationalism and ethnic differences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KarlXII View Post
    Touche, but I don't get pissy when someone mentions it. Also, the Swedes aren't killing the Norwegians and the Norwegians aren't killing the Danes because of petty nationalism and ethnic differences.
    All I need to know

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    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KarlXII View Post
    Other than war, ethnic nationalism and genocide, what has the Balkans shown for itself lately?
    Depends... If you watch CNN, not a lot... If you try to see for yourself, who knows...

    Just to clarify some things, geographical area known today as the Balkans have played a rather important role in European history. Do I need to mention Constantinople or Athens, should I compare them to whatever village there was in Scandinavia at the time? I don't want a pissing contest, just respect that there is 50+ million people at the Balkans and that trying to sum it up as nationalism and genocide is about the same as summing up German history as Nazism... I've traveled around Europe, I've been to a lot of countries, even ventured to North America and Asia and I've never met so biased and narrow minded people as Scandinavians (Swedes especially, actually). Does that give me the right to portray Swedes, Norwegians or Scandinavians in general as some nationalist bigots? I don't think so, but hey, maybe I shouldn't give a **** and do it, like HoreTore does...

    Simple respect - even if you don't respect history and cultural heritage of the Balkans (to which there's much more than what you've seen on TV), at least respect that there's a lot of people living there and that they just want to live normal lives... Don't put yourself or your country on a pedestal. The air may not be so clean down here but at least you get more accurate grasp of the situation...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    Depends... If you watch CNN, not a lot... If you try to see for yourself, who knows...
    So, first things first, I don't watch CNN, thank you very much.

    Just to clarify some things, geographical area known today as the Balkans have played a rather important role in European history.
    Who is denying this?

    Do I need to mention Constantinople or Athens, should I compare them to whatever village there was in Scandinavia at the time?
    Should I mention Athens/Constantinople/Rome/Paris/London/Berlin/Munich/Stockholm/Moscow/Novi Sad to add to the pissing contest?

    I don't want a pissing contest,
    Apparently you do if you bring up Greek achievements.

    just respect that there is 50+ million people at the Balkans and that trying to sum it up as nationalism and genocide is about the same as summing up German history as Nazism...
    How many times has Germany killed 6 million Jews and 2 million other unfavorables compared to the number of times Slavic and Balkan ethnicities killed each other because they were born in the wrong village.

    I've traveled around Europe, I've been to a lot of countries, even ventured to North America and Asia and I've never met so biased and narrow minded people as Scandinavians (Swedes especially, actually).
    You claim you don't want a pissing contest, yet you continue with...a pissing contest.

    You must have met some pretty hardcore Swedes, as the one's I have met are liberal and open minded.

    Does that give me the right to portray Swedes, Norwegians or Scandinavians in general as some nationalist bigots?
    It does if you have proof that Scandinavians are somehow no better than the various groups that committed genocide and ethnic cleansing in the Balkans.

    Simple respect - even if you don't respect history and cultural heritage of the Balkans
    It's not that I don't respect the bloody history of the Balkans, but excuse me if I don't respect war crimes and ethnic violence that occurs so much due to the mix of Slavs, Austrians, Italians, Greeks and Muslims that inhabit it.

    (to which there's much more than what you've seen on TV)
    How is this relevant? I gain my knowledge from facts of history.

    at least respect that there's a lot of people living there and that they just want to live normal lives...
    When have I ever said the contrary?

    I don't see, other than petty nationalism, what is so bad about saying that the Balkans have been a hotspot of genocide, ethnic violence and warfare. Who assassinated Franz Ferdinand? Which group enacted race laws, burned down churches, and killed Serbs during the Second World War? Who killed the people at Lašva Valley? Who massacred those Bosniaks at Srebrenica?

    This isn't a matter of respect or opinion, these are historical events that have happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KarlXII View Post
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    You obviously misunderstood my intention. I wasn't trying to start a pissing contest, I was merely trying to point out that there's a lot more to the Balkans than the wars in the 90's and that there's nothing so grand about Scandinavia and Scandinavians that gives them the right to look down on people, in the Balkans or anywhere else.

    It's especially distasteful when it's done by people from some powerful countries in the west, as precisely those countries, together with Russia, had their big, fat, greedy paws into every little thing that's happened in the Balkans in the last 200 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    Do I need to mention Constantinople or Athens, should I compare them to whatever village there was in Scandinavia at the time?
    Nope, since nobody cares about Scandinavia either.

    Germany, UK, France, Spain and Italy, those are the basic countries people care about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Nope, since nobody cares about Scandinavia either.

    Germany, UK, France, Spain and Italy, those are the basic countries people care about.
    Start producing quality Mead and export it abroad. Then you'll see people care again. And please, don't try experimenting with beer or wine. You'll piss a lot of people around here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KarlXII View Post
    Other than war, ethnic nationalism and genocide, what has the Balkans shown for itself lately?
    THEY...WON...A...EURO...*sighs*
    BLARGH!

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