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    But then that is the tragedy of hard-line socialism - it always comes down to caring more about the concepts than the human beings, despite bleating loudly that the latter's interests are it's raison d'etre.
    I read a comment the other day in the CiF section of the Guardian, it went something like this....

    "The left think that they can do anything when in power because they believe thier cause to be just".

    Sums up the mindset beautifully.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache View Post
    I read a comment the other day in the CiF section of the Guardian, it went something like this....

    "The left think that they can do anything when in power because they believe thier cause to be just".

    Sums up the mindset beautifully.
    I think the right also believe their cause to be just, and they do pretty much whatever when they are in power, too.



    Any of your partisan groups believe in their cause, I'd suspect; and I find partisans cause the most damage to us all.

    Killing hatebeards needs to be done. Because if we don't we will have to it it in 10 years with cosiderably more loss of life.
    According to which political party's propaganda pamphlet? BTW- who are the "inappropriate group bashing term"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
    According to which political party's propaganda pamphlet? BTW- who are the "inappropriate group bashing term"?
    I see you're not familiar with Fragony's worldview. Here's a brief rundown:

    Muslim extremists are taking over the world and killing our babies, supported by "lefties"(which I believe includes parties to the right of social democrats, like most liberal parties). They're doing it according to the teachings of the Quran and because our babies tastes good.

    I don't think it's necessary to say "no offense", frags, you know we all love you
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    I see you're not familiar with Fragony's worldview. Here's a brief rundown:

    Muslim extremists are taking over the world and killing our babies, supported by "lefties"(which I believe includes parties to the right of social democrats, like most liberal parties). They're doing it according to the teachings of the Quran and because our babies tastes good.

    I don't think it's necessary to say "no offense", frags, you know we all love you
    @HoreTore or Fragony, (anyone really)

    I dislike the gross oversimplification of a person's cultural, social, ethical, moral, religious, legal, government, and global philosophy/worldview into the false dichotomy of "left" and "right". It seems like a lazy way of referring to a very vague concept without having to actually state what you believe or where you stand, and it lends itself to false assumptions; such as- if a person is a right winger, they must of course support the death penalty and oppose stem cell research.

    I always thought people were entitled to have individual views on things, and weren't all cookie-cutter carbon copies of the stereotypical "liberal" and "conservative", if those words have any meaning whatsoever.

    Back to the topic: Wouldn't a liberal who supports tolerance and free speech and progressive ideology oppose radical religious extremism more than your typical member of the "christian right"? I mean, the "liberal left" has less in common with Muslims than the "right" does. I think you'll find actually a great many of the "liberals" will oppose intolerant radical militant religious extremism just as much as "conservatives" do, and will support efforts to disarm or destroy these threats to civilized society. I think that there is room for disagreement as to how to go about doing so; such as being careful not to carpet bomb civilians, and not torturing people, for one.

    Engaging in immoral and fear-based tactics like bombing civilians from the air is not how you fight extremism; it's how you spread it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy;2213476
    According to which political party's propaganda pamphlet? BTW- who are the "[COLOR="DarkGreen"
    people you seem to disparage so much[/COLOR]"?
    Term Deleted is how we call them here, muslim extremists. This is pretty dangerous you know, the Afghan may be a dirt poor, but all these red flowers you when you watch pictures from Afghanistan, what do you think that is? That would be opium, in hands of the Taliban, and for whoever they are usefull for they are sitting on the greatest opium-production of the world. Unlimited funds. This is much more dangerous then some people think it is, all middle-east nations are artificial states. Taliban is gaining influence in Pakistan, now what does pakistan just happen to have. What will be the reaction?

    I see you're not familiar with Fragony's worldview. Here's a brief rundown:

    Muslim extremists are taking over the world and killing our babies, supported by "lefties"(which I believe includes parties to the right of social democrats, like most liberal parties). They're doing it according to the teachings of the Quran and because our babies tastes good.


    Of course non taken
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    double post huh, I'll guess I'll try another time
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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache View Post
    I read a comment the other day in the CiF section of the Guardian, it went something like this....

    "The left think that they can do anything when in power because they believe thier cause to be just".

    Sums up the mindset beautifully.
    ...Just like whenever social conservatives get into power, they try and enforce their morals upon everyone else

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    people with strong beliefs always do. Part of a strong belief is that everyone else is either misinformed or just plain wrong.

    An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
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