That is what YOU think. They think otherwise. Regardless of whoever is right, you can't just call them all hateful. In their minds, maybe they are just disapproving of a nasty race of people.Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Re: I laugh in the face of White Supremacist groups
That is what YOU think. They think otherwise. Regardless of whoever is right, you can't just call them all hateful. In their minds, maybe they are just disapproving of a nasty race of people.
At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.
Re: I laugh in the face of White Supremacist groups
So:
Disapproving of a "nasty race of people" = Good and fair!
Disapproving of a group that thinks a race of people is nasty = Unfair and unwelcome!
Forgive me, but... if they can dish out "disapproval" to "nasty" people, I can do the same. In summary: Boo hoo?
I feel like singing a song about hypocrisy.
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Re: I laugh in the face of White Supremacist groups
No.So:Disapproving of a "nasty race of people" = Good and fair!
Disapproving of a group that thinks a race of people is nasty
Disapproving of a "nasty race of people" = probably incorrect/stupid
Disapproving of a group that think a race of people is nasty = fine
However...
Calling a "group that think a race of people is nasty" hateful = wrong and unhelpful
Racism is just one of those historic forces that emerges under the right conditions from time to time. To dismiss it as the ramblings of hateful people is dangerous, and will never lead to it being tackled effectively.
"Reason" is your favourite word, so you should apply it instead of calling all racists hateful just because they did it to the blacks. If you do that your position isn't really much more useful than theirs. You just create a 'reasonable people v hateful racists' mentality which does nothing to actually allow for reasonable discussion to take place.
At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.
Re: I laugh in the face of White Supremacist groups
I could just as easily turn around and say what you're doing is wrong and unhelpful.
It's your opinion, Rhyf;
They are allowed to express theirs, you're allowed to express yours, I'm allowed to express mine.
Fair is fair.
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Re: I laugh in the face of White Supremacist groups
Everything we say here is just our opinion!I could just as easily turn around and say what you're doing is wrong and unhelpful.
It's your opinion, Rhyf;
They are allowed to express theirs, you're allowed to express yours, I'm allowed to express mine.
Fair is fair.
So, in your opinion, is it correct to dismiss all racists as hateful?
IMO racism is just one of those diseases like poverty. Don't say that poor people are poor because they are lazy, instead its best to understand the conditions behind it, fix them, and solve problems at their root instead of just treating the symptoms.
At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.
Re: I laugh in the face of White Supremacist groups
rac⋅ism
/ˈreɪsɪzəm/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [rey-siz-uhm] Show IPA
–noun
1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
source: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racism
Rhyfelwyr, you seem to dislike what words mean; as such, your argument seems to be not with me, but with the English language.
Racism, by definition, means hatred.
I rest my case.
Last edited by Askthepizzaguy; 04-19-2009 at 22:29.
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Re: I laugh in the face of White Supremacist groups
Notice how you only bolded the third definition because it was the only one that you were using! You have a habit of doing that with words...rac⋅ism
/ˈreɪsɪzəm/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [rey-siz-uhm] Show IPA
–noun
1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
source: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racism
Rhyfelwyr, you seem to dislike what words mean; as such, your argument seems to be not with me, but with the English language.
Racism, by definition, means hatred.
At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.
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