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    Quote Originally Posted by seienchin View Post
    The Phalanx exploit with cklicking behind the Phalanx might be a good choice at Medium, but only with good armoured atack units. Thats why I dont see it as an exploit. Levis getting slaughtered anyway, but on VH even elite getting slaughtered....
    Now if only Darius had been smart enough to do that with his Greek hoplite mercenaries :)

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    Default Re: Breaking Elite Phalanx units - how?

    One of many ways...

    First kill the enemy leader or sweep him from the field. Then use your medium foot as the horns of the bull to attack their flankers and drive them from protecting the enemy heavy foot. This will force the heavy foot in the center to turn on your medium foot. As they do, use fire arrows from bowmen placed in your center to pepper the exposed parts of the Phalanx. Then rush in your light foot in the center to pin the rear of the Phalanx, while your medium foot retreats away from their continued advance. As the Phalanx begins to pull apart, slam into its exposed flank with your horse. Timing is everything as games over with very little lose.


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    If you encounter a phalanx without flank protection, you can set an armored heavy infantry unit to loose formation, then let them to charge. Your line will be wider than the phalanx and your unit will outflank the enemy from two sides, butchering them to hell, while you will lose only the guys infront of the sarissas. Of course it's quite hard to lure the phalanx away from the others, but it's possible. Sadly this doesn't work against multiple foe if the AI holds it's battle line together.
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    Default Re: Breaking Elite Phalanx units - how?

    phalanx? lol..
    give me a sword unit and i break it.
    mobility is important and sword is better than spear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aulus Caecina Severus View Post
    phalanx? lol..
    give me a sword unit and i break it.
    mobility is important and sword is better than spear.
    Unfortunatly spears are really strong and the phalangitai have sowrds too. Especialy on VH its not that easy.
    Anyway the best way to kill phalangitai for me was with a lot of light skirmisher cavallery. First tear single units out of the line than fire and mass charge them and so on.

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    Default Re: Breaking Elite Phalanx units - how?

    Pin down and charge in the back with:
    - Equites Extraordinarii (or other lance cavalry like Thessalian or Thracian)
    - Pedites Extraordinarii
    - Legionairs
    - Wild men
    - Axe men
    - Falx men
    - If you manage to get elephants they might work..
    - Throwing Pila in the back or firing other missiles in the back

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    Default Re: Breaking Elite Phalanx units - how?

    I prefer to have 10 phalanx in front than 10 Cretan archers.
    Phalanx, I repeat, is effective only against stationary opponents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seleukus View Post
    Now if only Darius had been smart enough to do that with his Greek hoplite mercenaries :)
    They almost did after the phalanx stalled out on rough terrain. Greek hoplites managed to really mess up phalanxes more than once.
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