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    Master of Few Words Senior Member KukriKhan's Avatar
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    I don't know what the heck is going on; 30% raped, 90% harrassed?

    Two Army generations ago, when I was active and we had just integrated the old Women's Army Corps into the regular army, rules were very clear: there was to be no (zero) touching, much less assault or rape. I personally saw an otherwise fine Captain lose his career for touching a female soldier on the shoulder and calling her "Hun".

    I don't understand the culture-shift of the Army leadership. This stuff is still punishable under the UCMJ - what's the hold-up on prosecuting it to the max, swiftly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Maybe having women in the military just isn't that a good idea.
    Maybe having men in the military isn't a good idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by KukriKhan View Post
    I don't know what the heck is going on; 30% raped, 90% harrassed?

    Two Army generations ago, when I was active and we had just integrated the old Women's Army Corps into the regular army, rules were very clear: there was to be no (zero) touching, much less assault or rape. I personally saw an otherwise fine Captain lose his career for touching a female soldier on the shoulder and calling her "Hun".

    I don't understand the culture-shift of the Army leadership. This stuff is still punishable under the UCMJ - what's the hold-up on prosecuting it to the max, swiftly?
    That sounds quite opposite to Lemur's generation theory if I didn't misunderstand him. It sounds a bit extreme even but certainly better than rape.

    The fact that these men have testosterone issues is not an excuse at all IMO, they're supposed to be professionals and have themselves under control, furthermore their female comrades are just that, comrades, they should get the same respect as all the other comrades, it's not like anyone has heard of one of those females going Olga on a comrade and raping him with Viagra, or is it?


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    This is just sickening
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    Soldiers are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy.

    Which is, of course, not an anti-militaristic battlecry, but the motto of rightwing warmongerer Henry Kissinger.

    However that may be, soldiers need discipline.
    There is a discrepancy between the very cultivation of overabundance of testosteron and aggression of young males for your own gain, and the simultanous decrying of the inevitable results of that. Armies breed violence, it is their very purpose. One reaps what one sows. One can not cultivate male violence and not expect mass rape. But armies are also the disciplining of violence, the directing of it towards the others instead of one's own. So discipline and the lash are what armies need.

    Two Army generations ago,

    I personally saw an otherwise fine Captain lose his career for touching a female soldier on the shoulder and calling her "Hun".
    Duh, of course he lost his career. Two generations ago, American soldiers were not supposed to make out with, but to kill, the hun. Sheesh.




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