Swords in the Moon [Concluded]

[Seamus Fermanagh]

I failed...

Timing the reveal is always tough, but don't let death stop your efforts!

[ULC]

I agree with Khaan, TC is tripping my mafia sense hard.

Challenge: TinCow
Vote: TinCow

Your just oh so helpful...

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Considering that there are supposed to be two samurai but there has been only one samurai kill each night, I think it is very likely that one or both of the samurai can investigate.

Olavi may have been one of them...the beginning of his kill sounds a lot like the beginning of Gregoshi's (returning from some night action).

We have "hour of the rat" and "hour of the ox" and rabbit as well though it's not clear what these mean.

[Chimpyang]

AFAIK

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_clock

[Chimpyang]

My take is :

Ninjas kill during midnight - Rat hour, traitors kill before dawn but after midnight - so if a traitor is killed during midnight, he wont get a chance to do his night action?

Challenge : Louis VI the Fat
Vote : Louis VI the Fat

[Chimpyang]

Ok misread the clues I followed from Andre's write up.

Unovte: Louis VI the Fat
Vote : Tincow

Reason: "A samurai wearing full armor came near."

I believe this is a subtle clue - and since only 2 people- Louis and Tincow have a custom avatar with armour on it - on second reading I see that Louis is not full armoured an oversight given my eagerness - and I apologise for the challenge - which cannot be taken back. I believe there have been 4 before mine though.

However, given the dearth of clues gleaned from previous write ups I belive Andres is giving us a bone to sniff here. Therefore I join the vote against Tincow.

[TinCow]

My take is :

Ninjas kill during midnight - Rat hour, traitors kill before dawn but after midnight - so if a traitor is killed during midnight, he wont get a chance to do his night action?

Andres' write-ups tend to be chronological in nature, but I have never seen them be time sensitive like Reenk's were in Settlement. Andres often puts them in an order which makes sense for a storyline. Thus, if an order is submitted to kill someone who is themselves active, the kill must occur after the victim's action so that the victim's action can still take place. In most games, Andres tends to order the actions from top to bottom in the write-up, with the top-most descriptions being the ones that happened earliest in the evening. In this game, he appears to be doing the same thing with the addition of actual Japanese 'Hour' descriptions to make it easier to understand (and nicely atmospheric as well). I see no reason to suspect that this game has a time sensitive system on night orders.

[TinCow]

Reason: "A samurai wearing full armor came near."

I believe this is a subtle clue - and since only 2 people- Louis and Tincow have a custom avatar with armour on it - on second reading I see that Louis is not full armoured an oversight given my eagerness - and I apologise for the challenge - which cannot be taken back. I believe there have been 4 before mine though.

However, given the dearth of clues gleaned from previous write ups I belive Andres is giving us a bone to sniff here. Therefore I join the vote against Tincow.

Uh... I don't even HAVE a custom avatar. As a mod, I'm required to use the rogue one.

[Chimpyang]

I meant the one of the knight in full armour - on my display it comes up between Moderator and Bureaucratically Efficient.

I mean the URL avatar, had to check my user cp for the term.

[Reenk Roink]

I am unsure how to feel about this bandwagon on TinCow. Master will tell me whether to support or oppose or be neutral.

[seireikhaan]

TinCow seems quite agitated...

[GeneralHankerchief]

Vote: khaan

Nope.

[pevergreen]

I have failed you, my master.

[LittleGrizzly]

LittleGrizzly
3) What's with the LittleGrizzly clan? Why are they presumed innocent?

Ill explain again for those that missed it, i can't be bothered to redo the rp bit so just imagine a great story of heroic struggle from being a lowly samurai rising to the rank of minor captain in the service of our great lord.

Reenk publically posted (near the start of the game... round 1 maybe) first person to pm me i pledge my sword too... (or something like that) i pm'd him first and now he will vote and challenge as i tell him...

pevergreen accused me of being mafia in the thread, i made a role playing post back... and then he pm'd me apologised and offered me his sword also...

Umm... I don't think were presumed innocent paticularly... just no votes on me or reenk as yet...

Though the one i slightly wasn't sure about (pevergreen) has been killed and proven innocent... i thought maybe he saw this as a cheap way to stay out of the limelight...

Ohh and master commands that in the absence of a command to vote someone in paticular that you must use the great intuition that master instilled in you and pick a good candidate()

Reenk knowing your master as well as you do who do you think he would vote for...
(this is the part where you come up with something brilliant for me to take credit for)

I don't see why TinCow's behaviour seems paticularly off... though i don't really notice his behaviour change when he is mafia so maybe im not the person to judge...

But do we have any better reason then he's being ohh so helpful... thats his usual style whether mafia or town... also i think thats somewhat off a bad long term strategy... keep lynching the helpful people... what are you left with...

Edit: err so im not joining the TC bandwagon but im sure im thinking of an excellent case... im thinking that i will hopefully post it soon through my loyal samurai

[Caius]

Vote: khaan

Nope.

Nope is what you have to say?

[LittleGrizzly]

I have failed you, my master.

The fact that a coward had to sneak in and kill you at night only proves what a legendary warrior you are. To afraid to face you in the battlefield they had to kill you without honour because unlike thier victim they are lesser men afraid to fight and die!

Fear not my fallen samurai, those that have taken you in the night shall be brought out of thier hiding and shamed... I shall take your sword and when those without honour are found I shall strike them down with your mighty blade as you would have done!

Reason: "A samurai wearing full armor came near."

TBH if thats your reasoning your case would probably suit me better... seen my avatar? an armoured up samurai with a huge 2 handed sword

[Thermal]

I chellenged the dutch guy before my death, whatever came of that?

[TinCow]

I meant the one of the knight in full armour - on my display it comes up between Moderator and Bureaucratically Efficient.

I mean the URL avatar, had to check my user cp for the term.

I don't have a URL avatar either, or at least I've never uploaded one. If I had, it would be the avatar I use on every other forum on the internet:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

[Sasaki Kojiro]

The reason TinCow is guilty is because my gut says he is.

[Yaropolk]

My take is :

Ninjas kill during midnight - Rat hour, traitors kill before dawn but after midnight - so if a traitor is killed during midnight, he wont get a chance to do his night action?

If your observation is true, then Olavi shouldn't have been killed at dawn, unless there is another party who gets a kill or Olavi wasnt a traitor.

[LittleGrizzly]

ok a few posts that made me a little suspicious...

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=808

'khaan everyone should vote for tincow

TC asked why, never got a response, made one analytical post and then said he doesn't have a custom avatar....

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=821

'Khaan TinCow seems quite agitated

Which he didn't really...

'khaan never even voted for tincow?!

Explain yourself or die!

Vote 'khaan

The stuff above was an attack on khaan rather than a defence of TC

Although Sasaki saying his gut instinct makes me wonder... he is a good mafia hunter..

[Andres]

Wishazu replaces Warluster.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Well grizz...khaan is dead. And was going after tincow yesterday.

[Reenk Roink]

Reenk knowing your master as well as you do who do you think he would vote for...
(this is the part where you come up with something brilliant for me to take credit for)

I eagerly await more of your lessons.

Master has spoken:

Vote: Shinseikhaan

[Andres]

Well grizz...khaan is dead. And was going after tincow yesterday.

Oh come on, why did you say that? I was already preparing a story about several samurai trying to gather the ashes of 'khaan to burn them again while the real lynchee was committing seppuku, all that under the puzzled eye of the as always calm and silent Shingen.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

EDIT: @ Reenk.

[seireikhaan]

Dudes, what's with all the votes on me? I was already killed.

[Reenk Roink]

Dudes, what's with all the votes on me? I was already killed.

*ahem* Master has spoken...

[Thermal]

I chellenged the dutch guy before my death, whatever came of that?

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[Andres]

I chellenged the dutch guy before my death, whatever came of that?

You issued your challenge at night. Challenges must be made during the day.

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[Chaotix]

Argh... dead. Strange strategy for the mafia to kill off someone with alow participation level. Also, it appears the great Tosa has turned me back from peverbrown a little early...