Britain's governments have been pathetic on matters of individualism and privacy (and I'm not even talking about socialism) for decades.
And the British people have let it happen.
Sarcasm?Brilliant.
Idea.
CR
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Britain's governments have been pathetic on matters of individualism and privacy (and I'm not even talking about socialism) for decades.
And the British people have let it happen.
Sarcasm?Brilliant.
Idea.
CR
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I'm sure it's for their own good and they'll be...um...safer. Yeah, that's the ticket, safer.
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Stories out of the UK always make me feel better about America for a few minutes, before I remember that we're just slower than you guys...
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Banking meltdown? Something of a draw.
Sidestepping Habeus Corpus? You've paved the way for the last decade or so. We're only just catching up.
Litigous state of mind? A disease we caught of you lot.
Foreign aggression? You led, we followed.
An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
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The tendency to flirt with anything Orwellian seems deeply rooted into the UK collective psyche.
I am not sure why and for the life of me I never found out but it would always use to make me wonder why such freedom loving people do not go berserk when their liberties are being questioned.
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I can give you my theory...
Firstly the CCTV camera's.... i was reading up on this recently...
It appears CCTV got its first big success in the UK when the Bulger murder happened (2 10-13 year olds took a young boy and murdered him brutally) the murderers were caught thanks to some grainy CCTV footage. Not long after this the goverment offered grants to local councils that wanted CCTV camera's and thier numbers shot up, i think alot of councils saw it as a good preventative measure and a good way to solve crimes that after the original setup costs is fairly cheap to operate...
They saw it as a cheap way to reassure some people and a good way to collect evidence...
Most of the more recent stuff ID cards, and this kind of thing... is New Labour trying to appeal to more right wing minded voters, being tough on crime and the strong man is usually more a position associated with tory goverments but this Labour goverment has throughout its time in power (and since the early 90's under Kinnock) made a determined effort to seem as right wing as possible whilst still remaining the left wing party by default, this is how they have so successfully stayed in power since '97...
The problem is alot of natural labour voters, mainly left wingers are attached to the labour party due to the fact they have always been labour voters, they are/were the natural party of left wingers and appear less evil than those nasty torys to the left wing voter. On top of this they go for big bold right wing policys so the type of people scared of crime, terrorism and immigration can see the goverment is doing something about it, and it stops the tory's making the claim they are tougher on crime...
All of this combined with the fact that immigration and terrorism seem to be terrifying world ending things for some that they would happily give up thier civil liberties in exchange for...
Also it really doesn't help that the only party who does fight the civil liberties corner is our 3rd largest party... which is far small than the 2 major ones and doesn't seem like its going to improve that position any time soon...
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Hello, McFly! British Empire? HELLO?!?Foreign aggression? You led, we followed.
British Empire circa 1930's...
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History is it?? I was thinking a bit more modern that that.
Well, if you really want to rub it in, the Brits invaded America in the first place...
An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
Science flies you to the moon, religion flies you into buildings.
"If you can't trust the local kleptocrat whom you installed by force and prop up with billions of annual dollars, who can you trust?" Lemur
If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain.
The best argument against democracy is a five minute talk with the average voter. Winston Churchill
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Never
GARCIN: I "dreamt," you say. It was no dream. When I chose the hardest path, I made my choice deliberately. A man is what he wills himself to be.
INEZ: Prove it. Prove it was no dream. It's what one does, and nothing else, that shows the stuff one's made of.
GARCIN: I died too soon. I wasn't allowed time to - to do my deeds.
INEZ: One always dies too soon - or too late. And yet one's whole life is complete at that moment, with a line drawn neatly under it, ready for the summing up. You are - your life, and nothing else.
Jean Paul Sartre - No Exit 1944
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Britain's governments have been pathetic on matters of individualism and privacy (and I'm not even talking about socialism) for decades.
And the British people have let it happen.
It was/is to keep us safe from terrorists immigrants fraudsters and then all other kinds of nasty people if you include the internet...apparently. They were appealing to the fear vote....
Its funny that your not talking about socialism because neither are new labour
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agreed, we are responsible for this mess.
the lib-dems have a very spotty record on that account, they are very nanny'ish on many matters and a little libertarian on others, some might call it schizophrenic as the left vs libertarian elements struggle for dominance of the party.
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EU Parliament fighting the good fight for once
EU Parliament rejects Telecom bill
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AI will likely be the tool used to sort through the overwhelming amount of data to comb. It's sorta like the CCTV system they have, good in theory but it requires people watching the CCTV to be effective.
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Stage three, we say that maybe we should do something about it, but there's nothing we can do.
Stage four, we say maybe there was something we could have done, but it's too late now.
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https://www.wired.com/story/null-lic...r-ticket-hell/
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That's an interesting story for sure! Who would have thought 'null' as a license plate would have such effects.
"Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?"
-Abraham Lincoln
Four stage strategy from Yes, Minister:
Stage one we say nothing is going to happen.
Stage two, we say something may be about to happen, but we should do nothing about it.
Stage three, we say that maybe we should do something about it, but there's nothing we can do.
Stage four, we say maybe there was something we could have done, but it's too late now.
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Is this even possible?
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Sometimes I get the feeling that China is a testing ground. If we see it in China, then there's a possibility that we'd see it here someday.
Wooooo!!!
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