so how are they better?Originally Posted by HoreTore
Re: The Current Status of Monarchism.
so how are they better?
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Re: The Current Status of Monarchism.
For starters, it would be impossible to corrupt your politicians by bribing them in exchange for titles...
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
Re: The Current Status of Monarchism.
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-Oscar WildeNow that the House of Commons is trying to become useful, it does a great deal of harm.
Re: The Current Status of Monarchism.
Oh dear.... Do we have another Tribesman?
Except the old Tribesman usually have some solid argument beneath the surface...
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
Re: The Current Status of Monarchism.
Nope I have no good argument, I just point at yours' and almost die of laughter, that was such an awsome post HoreTore
Phew, ok...
It was an erroneous distinction HoreTore, it was great, you were levelling the accusation of corruption against a specific form of government as if it was some great evil which demonstrated clearly the ill sof constitutional monarchy. I laughed because corruption is an institution of all governments, no matter their contruct, tbh the idea that a gut may buy his way into the Lords is alot less frightening than people being elected Senator because of fat manila enevlope changing hands.
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-Oscar WildeNow that the House of Commons is trying to become useful, it does a great deal of harm.
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Uhm, no. A fail on every front.
Try again.
As your doctor, however, I'm authorized to give you a bottle of these "makes me understand irony, sarcasm, tongue-in-cheek-comments and humour in general"-pills
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
Re: The Current Status of Monarchism.
Oh I see it was one of those, oh bugger that was wrong but I'll just paint it a different shade of red and no one will notice, type things was it?Uhm, no. A fail on every front.
Try again.
As your doctor, however, I'm authorized to give you a bottle of these "makes me understand irony, sarcasm, tongue-in-cheek-comments and humour in general"-pills
Yes, you were levelling the accusation of corruption at a specific form of government, bribing in exchange for titles, is corruption. They do very similar things in Italy I'm told they also tried to do it in the U.S not too long ago.
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Are you taking the piss?
There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.
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let me be the third person to roll on the floor laughing my behind off.
but back to the figures, is there any facts or figures you would like to bring to the table regarding types of government and corruption, perhaps using western europe as a typical sample set?
Furunculus Maneuver: Adopt a highly logical position on a controversial subject where you cannot disagree with the merits of the proposal, only disagree with an opinion based on fundamental values. - Beskar
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Nope.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
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I do not see what is so odd about this?
As I understand it, the reasoning is that 'one can not bribe politicians by bestowing them with titles when there are no titles to begin with'. Not 'it is impossible to corrupt politicians if there are no titles'.
The first makes perfect sense. However, I do think that some non-monarchies hand out titles too, mostly non-heriditary ones.
For the sake of interest: France does not have a nobility.France, Italy and Germany's nobility are a leftover from their days as monarchies.
Rather confusingly, France does have noble titles. The legal status of a noble title is - in some very complicated manner that I don't really understand - that of a protected part of the family name.
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Those that say a Republic is better immune to idiots in power than a Monarchy should look at GWB and learn. An idiot can be bred as much as be elected for power.
At least the Monarch does not have to be concerned with public opinion, and therefore the means that manipulate public opinion. The notion that all governments should be elected and empowered by the people is not written in stone, neither it is necessarily the best; if the people are stupid, and if the people are easily manipulated by Big Money and Big Media into being swayed for demagogues or a certain candidate, then it's best to take away their right.
Which is probably one of the biggest problems out there. A perfect Democracy exists only in the realms of dream; in the United States the power of the top guys effectively enforces a two-party oligarchy ran by the same old interests.
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