Dealing with anti-Semitism on the internet

**Pannonian** · 04-30-2009, 21:37

Originally Posted by Hooahguy

i think it has something to do with the fact that, to my knowledge, im the only religious jew in the backroom, so im pretty fierce about it.

There's a Jewish chap at TWC who's well-known for being ultra-orthodox in how he practices Judaism. He's very liberal in his outlook towards anything that isn't himself.

**Rhyfelwyr** · 04-30-2009, 21:50

I've never heard of the 'zeal of youth' before, as is testified to by the age range (or indeed lack of it) in my church, it might as well be a pensioners' club. I heard most folks turn religious when they get to their 30's, or whenever they settle down.

But to be on topic, hooah you really won't do yourself or your viewpoints any favour by aiding such an organisation. The fact it chose to name itself after the IDF shows it was trying to be a bit provocative. I know this guy from another site who's convinced Jesuits did everything from causing the Second World War to sinking the Titanic. Every time a video goes down it just shows how much influence the Jesuits are getting...

**Hooahguy** · 04-30-2009, 22:55

Originally Posted by Pannonian

There's a Jewish chap at TWC who's well-known for being ultra-orthodox in how he practices Judaism. He's very liberal in his outlook towards anything that isn't himself.

well thats him. am i that ultra-orthodox chap at the TWC? no, im not.
im not even ultra-orthodox. plus, ultra-orthodox are typically liberal. ever heard of Neturei Carta?
the more conserrvative ones are the modern orthodox, which is what i am.

**Pannonian** · 04-30-2009, 23:26

Originally Posted by Hooahguy

well thats him. am i that ultra-orthodox chap at the TWC? no, im not.
im not even ultra-orthodox. plus, ultra-orthodox are typically liberal. ever heard of Neturei Carta?
the more conserrvative ones are the modern orthodox, which is what i am.

It just shows that being religious doesn't necessarily mean wanting to impose one's views on others. Religion is like any other private view, fine in private, and one is free to impose it however one likes on oneself. Once one goes outside oneself and tries to affect others, it oversteps the mark into zealotry. One can say whatever one likes, and one's company and nature is plain from that, but if one tries to turn that into action, one crosses the line.

**Hax** · 04-30-2009, 23:48

What's this self-righteous nonsense anyways? People from all different kinds of ethnicities, beliefs and backgrounds will have to cope with discrimination in one form or another. I mean, just go to 4chan and look how often the word

is used. Of course black people could be offended, but what I find more disgusting than discrimination is using that discrimination in your own advantage. Hell, look at the situation of Arabs and Muslims nowadays.

im the only religious jew in the backroom

..and?

However your zeal seems to be channelled towards only one thing and I am sorry to say being a web-vigilante is a waste of your skills and it does not really promote (as you can see) understanding against anti-semitism

Exactly. I think this thing is far more likely to get more anti-semitism going than to counter it. "Oh, there you have those Jews again who mess up our forums. We should gas them."

plus people who are advocating the killing all jews, muslims or whatever deserve no free speech, IMO.

Innate rights. That's how it begins. You first say "you're not allowed to say that all Jews must be killed". Then it goes to "You are not allowed to say that Jews are evil". Subsequently: "You are not allowed to say that some Jews have commited bad deeds". And soon enough, it might just resembled a police state.

**Hooahguy** · 05-01-2009, 00:19

Originally Posted by Pannonian

It just shows that being religious doesn't necessarily mean wanting to impose one's views on others. Religion is like any other private view, fine in private, and one is free to impose it however one likes on oneself. Once one goes outside oneself and tries to affect others, it oversteps the mark into zealotry. One can say whatever one likes, and one's company and nature is plain from that, but if one tries to turn that into action, one crosses the line.

so you are saying that anyone who tries to go out and make a difference is a zealot?

**Hax** · 05-01-2009, 00:21

so you are saying that anyone who tries to go out and make a difference is a zealot?

At the expense of others, yes.

**Hooahguy** · 05-01-2009, 00:25

the people who fought for civil rights in the 60's also did it at the expense of others.

**Tribesman** · 05-01-2009, 00:26

Hooah , do you see the irony in belonging to a group that claims to be combatting racial/religious hate and terrorist support on the internet , yet links to "friendly" terrorist supporting racial/religious hate sites itself?

**Hooahguy** · 05-01-2009, 00:30

hold on, looking for that link....
maybe you would be so kind as to inform me which "terrorist" site it links to?

**Hax** · 05-01-2009, 00:40

the people who fought for civil rights in the 60's also did it at the expense of others.

Yes, but now you try to take away civil rights.

**Tribesman** · 05-01-2009, 00:43

Just think Air India 182 and follow your nose .
Its a site Gawain used a few times for getting some cut and paste anti muslim rants ,though to be fair I think Gawain just found it a handy source for religious hatred stuff and didn't realise about the authors views on terrorism