Accept or war, for please give us peace

**Veles Shadow** · 05-02-2009, 19:47

The AI never gives up do they? how often do you get this pointless waste of 20 seconds?

I've had two this campaign and more on others
Could anyone give me a reason on why the AI insists on accepting trade rights, Maps and maybe an alliance and then that faction only knows how to say no from then on.

EDIT: Picture isn't showing up for me, can anyone else see it?

**Quirinus** · 05-03-2009, 00:52

I can't see it either, but heh, I know what you're saying. That's because the diplomacy in RTW is hopelessly broken, sadly.

Sometimes the AI will also propose something, but when you reject it and propose the exact same thing again using your diplomat, it is rejected out of hand.

**Veles Shadow** · 05-03-2009, 09:43

Yh the picture has a britania diplomat talking to me (Gaul) and saying "accept or we will attack" for "please do not attack"

it's just random and I think total war really needs to work on diplomacy for the next game :)

**HopAlongBunny** · 05-05-2009, 07:38

Had the same thing.

Rome dip.: "Please do not attack"; "Accept or we will attack"

Countered with: "Cease fire; trade rights"

Rome dip.: "Do not waste our time with useless bandying..."

"sigh"

**coalition** · 05-06-2009, 22:43

Originally Posted by JJ 847

The AI never gives up do they? how often do you get this pointless waste of 20 seconds?

I've had two this campaign and more on others
Could anyone give me a reason on why the AI insists on accepting trade rights, Maps and maybe an alliance and then that faction only knows how to say no from then on.

EDIT: Picture isn't showing up for me, can anyone else see it?

That happens to me alot when I was playing Rome, maybe the AI is trying to assert domination over you?

Probobly not the greatest way to start though.

**Caius** · 05-09-2009, 16:25

Even though we do not see the image, we know that. They just made a game with A, not AI. Its missing the intelligence of it.

The AI never gives up do they? how often do you get this pointless waste of 20 seconds?

Want a not so effective solution? Kill the diplomat.

**Quirinus** · 05-10-2009, 15:06

Originally Posted by HopAlongBunny

Had the same thing.

Rome dip.: "Please do not attack"; "Accept or we will attack"

Countered with: "Cease fire; trade rights"

Rome dip.: "Do not waste our time with useless bandying..."

"sigh"

I second Caius' suggestion, send him an assassin, see if he can negotiate with a blade.

"I have come to kill you, diplomat."

"NOOO! Okay, look, please do not attack me... accept or I will attack."

"Fine with me."

**SubRosa** · 05-10-2009, 18:44

I find that bribing pesky enemy diplomats is a more sure-fire way to get rid of them than assassination. Usually you have a train up an assassin by killing a few captain-led armies a bit before they can knock off a diplomat. It usually only costs about 4-5k to bribe a diplomat on very hard, and then you can use them to go bribe units from their former faction.

**Relic** · 06-14-2009, 10:13

Yeah :S
Diplomacy in Rome just failed...

**irisheagle** · 06-29-2009, 13:29

Well as far as gameplay, yes the AI is broken in terms of diplomacy, but honestly if you look at the way the REAL governments do things, it actually becomes accurate :P (Look to NY to see what i mean)

**Hakomar** · 09-01-2009, 16:00

The AI always attacks me in the next one - three turns.
Please do not attack - we are preparing to attack you!
They don't often attack next turn if for a ceasfire.

**caravel** · 09-02-2009, 08:30

The diplomatic AI and strategic AI (the AI that controls agents and that which control armies respectively) work at cross purposes in RTW. This effectively means that a rival faction's diplomats may be approaching you to genuinely gain a ceasefire or alliance, but their armies are oblivious to this. This is quite obviously a serious bug.

**Psauniaus spartio** · 12-22-2010, 20:29

you have to be rich enough....and they will surely demand trade rights..you have to be powerful enough and they will surely demande alliance with trade rigths and map information .....simply play with hard or very hard difficulty.. and tou will see the difference ^^