Quote Originally Posted by Tristuskhan View Post
Do I really have to tell you? Fifteen years ago my girlfriend aborted, hence I used a medical procedure to the detriment of humanity, hence it looks like I can be put more or less on par with Hitler and Stalin, hence no more debate.
I believe that his point was to assert that simply labeling it a "medical procedure" did not address the moral element of whether or not it is "life" or a parasitic growth that can become life. His goal was not to equate you with Hitler or Stalin. He should have made the referant clearer.

Let's make a good effort to be clear and respectful folks.

Btw, I don't recall reading that the Stalin regime was involved in much in the way of twisted medical experiments -- Stalin was always focused on the main issue of preserving his power and didn't do much in the way of "frills." The Nazis and certain elements in Imperial Japan were the one's doing the medico-horror shows. EMFM or one of the other Stalin-loathers can confirm this.

For me, life begins at conception. Thus the loss of "surplus" sperm during urination or the monthly cycling of ovum does not constitute anything that harms life. Belief that life begins at conception, and that the foetus therefore has rights from that point forward, does dominate the rest of issue for me.