I don't love this game anymore

[saw]

I have always been playing Total War and I was happy the day the game come. Except for CTD the
game was fun, I could have a good economy and have some good fight.

Now it's inpossibol to have some mony. I have 3 full slots in Brazil (3 x 14 ships), 3 in the Iron coust, 3
in Madagaska and 1 in East India = 140 Indiamen. I should be rich right?
I have 2 full arme one in Caribie fighting pirates the other in Canada. I have upgrade al habor and
recource everyting according to economy and still bankrout!!!

I have the Canada arme to fight with the indien and in the fight my arme was cut to half.
I am thinking to uninstall my game and never play it again...

[Monsieur Alphonse]

Just wait for the next patch. CA has done some work on it. From the update on may 13:

Over the last few days I've been playing the game and tweaking economics values. In essence, I've slightly reduced the administration cost and made the economic game a little bit easier on "normal" and "easy" difficulty levels. Also, I've tweaked the AI's economic bonuses so that they will have a more money to spend on an army.

Also, I've tweaked the effects of technology: Some technologies were reducing the upkeep cost of units a little bit too much.

[AussieGiant]

I have always been playing Total War and I was happy the day the game come. Except for CTD the
game was fun, I could have a good economy and have some good fight.

Now it's inpossibol to have some mony. I have 3 full slots in Brazil (3 x 14 ships), 3 in the Iron coust, 3
in Madagaska and 1 in East India = 140 Indiamen. I should be rich right?
I have 2 full arme one in Caribie fighting pirates the other in Canada. I have upgrade al habor and
recource everyting according to economy and still bankrout!!!

I have the Canada arme to fight with the indien and in the fight my arme was cut to half.
I am thinking to uninstall my game and never play it again...

Mate, step away from the PC, go and what some naked ladies on the tv and come back when the new patch is out.

[Vlad Tzepes]

Well... I'm sorry for you, Saw, but maybe you should try again. Be patient and focus on economy first - war is all about money.

I myself was worried as the latest patch changed the economics in the game, but it isn't so difficult. In my UP campaign, H/H, I was financially solid after mid-game, nothing to worry anymore. As a matter of fact, I was cashing in more than 20K per turn after 1720.

It's now 1790, I own around 40 provinces, 3 million GP, something like 10 full army stacks + lots of garrisoned units, 5 3rd, 2nd and 1st rate fleets. It works as a charm.

[pevergreen]

It's now 1790, I own around 40 provinces, 3 million GP, something like 10 full army stacks + lots of garrisoned units, 5 3rd, 2nd and 1st rate fleets. It works as a charm.

And I bet you are praising the lord that there obviously isnt any corruption traits anymore.

[Husar]

Uh well, having 140 indiamen and no trading partners would mean you pay upkeep for 140 indiamen and get nothing in return.
Or maybe you have too many armies and navies, generally you're only bankrupt if you spend more than you earn, it's not that hard. Besides, IIRC if your 140 indiamen flood the market with goods, the value of those goods should go down, thus you would earn less by selling them. Haven't gotten that much into the trading yet but I didn't have any big problems with the UP so far.

[Prussian to the Iron]

economy is easy; pre-patch i was making like 17,000 dollars a turn(post-patch it dropped to 6,000, but then idisbanded some unneeded armies and now it sback up to 13,000). basically, if you're capital doesnt already have a commercial port, make it one. especially as UP it is a lifesaver trading with england and france(only problem with them is thay blockade eachother >:\)

anyway, spend like the first 10-15 turns kicking out bad ministers and then disband all non-essential units. pre-patch, i thought it was essential to have 5 full stacks fighting the mughals. post-patch, i find that all i need is a stack(which, btw, costs like 3,000 in upkeep per turn, possibly more or less) and a few garrisons(i use hindu swordsmen as garrison; they are cheep upkeep and thay can still kick ass if i need them to)


i would suggests starting a new campaign as either the UP or maybe Russia; countries that have good financial backing(UP has colonies with good places to expand/ upgrade, russia has tons of towns that provide good money). if you have too hard a tiem with the UP, then i honestly say you have no skillz in TW, no offense intended.

[Slaists]

I have always been playing Total War and I was happy the day the game come. Except for CTD the
game was fun, I could have a good economy and have some good fight.

Now it's inpossibol to have some mony. I have 3 full slots in Brazil (3 x 14 ships), 3 in the Iron coust, 3
in Madagaska and 1 in East India = 140 Indiamen. I should be rich right?
I have 2 full arme one in Caribie fighting pirates the other in Canada. I have upgrade al habor and
recource everyting according to economy and still bankrout!!!

I have the Canada arme to fight with the indien and in the fight my arme was cut to half.
I am thinking to uninstall my game and never play it again...

Check my thumbnails here:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=117119

in version 1.02: even an economically challenged faction like Russia can be made to roll in cash by late-midgame on VH campaign difficulty.

[saw]

Thanks for all answer. In this campang I was spending the first 15 yeare just to make a good economy. Is it wrong to full up the slots in the theater?

Everything according to the economy I have upgrade, so what more to do?
I realy hope that the new path will sovel this problem and hopfully some CTD also.

Thank you.

[Slaists]

Thanks for all answer. In this campang I was spending the first 15 yeare just to make a good economy. Is it wrong to full up the slots in the theater?

Everything according to the economy I have upgrade, so what more to do?
I realy hope that the new path will sovel this problem and hopfully some CTD also.

Thank you.

If you fill up ALL trade slots (of course, you're free to do so): 1) you will create an oversupply of the commodities in the market so the prices will drop; 2) if you manage to control #1 (by not filling up all slots with ships to the whuazooo) you'll end up with a boring game because at some point you'll have so much cash that you'll be able to swim in it...

For #1: As you add an indiaman to a slot in a trade theater watch what your total income is doing. If it does not jump up by a lot more than 50 gold pieces (indiaman's upkeep), you have already over-supplied that good to the market. Try other trade theaters (with different goods) or stop sending more indiamen to the theaters altogether. Probably disband some to see the commodity price improve.

[Prussian to the Iron]

because of the economy surplus and shortage system, it is best to have only fleets on 2 trade spots in each theatre if you must. my favorites are madagascar and the ivory coast, which supply you with the most expensive goods. any more than 2 and youare overdoing it.

[Monsieur Alphonse]

Thanks for all answer. In this campang I was spending the first 15 yeare just to make a good economy. Is it wrong to full up the slots in the theater?

Everything according to the economy I have upgrade, so what more to do?
I realy hope that the new path will sovel this problem and hopfully some CTD also.

Thank you.

Try to capture as many trade nodes as you can is very smart. But don't add to many trade ships. Do it slowly and watch those prices. If they go up, add a ship. If they go down just wait until they go up again. I always try to get the prices of spices and ivory at around 25 gold.

[saw]

Well I started a new campang (GB) and have 2 slots in Brazil, 2 in Ironcoust and 2 in Madagaska. I looked what AI have done and he have six indiaman in every spot, so I di the same. The most I have an trade on 13045 and a cost on 4778 for the navy. Still my pony was not good att most around 5000
/turn.

I belive that I have to stop playing and wait for the pach.
Thanks again for all asvise.

[Prussian to the Iron]

Well I started a new campang (GB) and have 2 slots in Brazil, 2 in Ironcoust and 2 in Madagaska.

i think you mean:

ivory coast
madagascar

[IRONxMortlock]

Yeah, same for me.... just never feel like playing it anymore. A week or so ago I started a new campaign as the Russians and everything was the same as every other campaign; just a slightly different campaign map. I got two turns in and exited to desktop. I really can't see myself returning to ETW again anytime soon.