Pray away your diabetes- Ask me how

[Rhyfelwyr]

God doesn't intervene in the world much nowadays because this is the time where everybody will mock Christians and the scripture and things are happening just like in Revelation.

There I said it.

[InsaneApache]

This reminds me of that sect that believed that you could exist on fresh air alone. I forget their name now. Anyway, after a few weeks of only drinking water and getting nourishment from fresh air, they just about perfected it and then died.

As for this case. If you believe in an almighty and pray to him to intercede on your behalf, then it makes perfect sense. It also helps that it removes these looney tunes from the gene pool. Sad, but there we are.

[LittleGrizzly]

It also helps that it removes these looney tunes from the gene pool.

Thats one good way to look at it, I haven't really got a problem with religious nuts removing theselves from the gene pool, its when they allow this to inflict on thier children i have a problem...

Maybe there should be some kind of questionaire for new parents to fill out, could make it multiple choice or something

Your child is in unrgent need of medical care, Do you

A) Take them to the doctor / phone an ambulance
B) same as above but pray to a higher power for his health
C) Do not seek medical attention as praying to a higher power will do the job...

A's and B's take the children home, C's children get put in the hands of someone responsible... like maybe an A or a B with a spare room

God doesn't intervene in the world much nowadays because this is the time where everybody will mock Christians and the scripture and things are happening just like in Revelation.

When did he stop intervening or lessen his interference... in recent times (with abortion and gays) back in the enlightenment... one of the world wars maybe ?

Out of interest (maybe we should open another topic for this) but apart from Israel being there (which i think the book made happen rather than predicted, its like predicting a child will be a failure so not bothering to teach him anything... then being proved right when hes a failure as an adult...) so what other signs are there pointing to it ?

[Viking]

It also helps that it removes these looney tunes from the gene pool.

Thats one good way to look at it, I haven't really got a problem with religious nuts removing theselves from the gene pool, its when they allow this to inflict on thier children i have a problem...

Are not their children their very contribution to this "gene pool", though?

[Rhyfelwyr]

It also helps that it removes these looney tunes from the gene pool. Sad, but there we are.

I'M STILL STANDING

[LittleGrizzly]

I'M STILL STANDING

Have you had a diesease/illness which rather than going to the doctor for god cured it through the miracle of prayer ?

Obviously im talking about something more serious than flu, something which those that don't believe in the miracle of prayer would say you needed medical attention to cure...

Otherwise the fact your still standing is fairly irrelevant to IA's point...

Either that or i fail badly at understanding your point...

[Samurai Waki]

Okay... if you're praying for god to cure you're diabetes, instead of taking your insulin, then god will kill you. For your stupidity.

[rasoforos]

God doesn't intervene in the world much nowadays because this is the time where everybody will mock Christians and the scripture and things are happening just like in Revelation.

There I said it.

Yes yes it all makes perfect sense now... Are you supposed to be agreeing with their choice then?



Anyway, such behaviour like the one that family showed is indeed psychopathic but also indeed rare among Christians in our days. It should be noted though that radical and totally illogical religious dogmas have historically been very popular (see Wahabism today or what Christianity really was a few hundreds of years ago) and therefore we need to make sure that religion does not seep into political decision making...

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Miracle cures are an intersting issue. Much of our knowledge about this comes fromMedieval Haigeography (Saint's lives etc.), generally such cures were only sought when all other avenues were exhausted. However, the Monks tended to think that you should go talk to a Saint first, surprisingly, perhaps, the Bishops and priests would rather you went to a doctor half the time.

In any case, I don't condone this sort of foolishness, especially when it leads to the death of children.

I also think, from a theological perspective, that if God wanted to challenge the parents he would mkae them ill, not their daughter. Alternatively, if they thought it was a spiritual attack they should have sent for an exorcist, who would hopefully have then sent the child to a hospital.