I came to my own conclusion that there are, many killers by round 2, by virtue of my vigilante profession. Maybe if I omitted that it was a silver bullet, Beskar would not have been so eager to agree with me.
Because you killed during a tie, so did a killer. Therefore, it must be a killer thing to kill during a tie. If there was another tie, it would be a case the killer could strike again, therefore, if you created a tie, you (the killer) could kill us off.
That looks awfully to me like a mafia's knee jerk reaction, hoping that the last few minutes that the other person has on would not be able to convince the other remaining townie to side with him. So instead, you vote for me now and pray for the wonders of retaliatory votes and the desire to survive.
Not the case, TheFlax has a habit of vote changing last second/voting last second. It was an obvious reference to that. If anything, I could have simply kept my vote the same, he would have died, and if I was the bad person, I would simply win. No need for me to actually change my vote at all, if I was bad. So me not changing my vote at all would be the scummy action.
You are just now planning your strategy to turn TheFlax against me, in order to survive. It is a desperate measure from a Mafia member.
Beskar has evidently nicely changed his vote once TheFlax has voiced his suspicion. Notice that Beskar moves along nicely changing votes like tissue paper. Hopping on the people that have a vote are we?
Nope, I thought TheFlax was going to target me regardless and as I said, I didn't have much evidence, it could be the case you are both serial killers, how am I to actually know? However, you can kill during ties and you saying you wanted another tie does look suspicious. It is also the fact Starfleet only kill in defence/war, they don't go around murdering people, so your explanation to why you could go and murder some one seems very faulty.
No.1 Beskar hops votes and hopes for allies in voting.
Yes, because I did this a total of zero times in the entire game. Sticking with my vote as I had an ally anyway and the fact TheFlax was voting for you, means I wasn't even a target. However, you could be a liability since your kill ability works in a tie and if the game was tied, you could kill again and win the game, game to the killers. So by changing vote, all I done if prevent a possible Mafia victory from a tie.
On another note, I voted first, and you allied to my vote. Wouldn't that be you wanting allies in voting? If you was so uncertain, wouldn't have you voted for Abstain till later?
No.2 Beskar seems convinced that the game is over and unlike any good townie who will stick around to see if the person he sided with is possibly mafia, he resigns himself to whatever fate he has chosen. I could exaggerate and say he is inwardly celebrating right now that TheFlax is convinced of my guilt and thus, he should not pay attention to me now.
Because I thought the game might possibly be over, but it wasn't, presuming you was a good guy and AVSM was the final monster. However, with you gunning for a tie-off, the fact you could do a night phase kill and the fact TheFlax seemed serious with his vote, I felt I could trust him as he seemed to have the same suspicions as myself. The only thing I would have gained with changing vote is preventing you from causing a tie-off, where you could do another night kill.
No.4 If you read through all of this you would likely realize that Beskar has only resigned himself to voting for a person when the person he SIDES WITH seems totally convinced that the other is scum and thus, votes and likely will not change.
Yeah, I obviously did that through the game. Please state where I did this? Wasn't it I that voted for AVSM first and it was actually TheFlax who then voted along with me? Are you trying to imply TheFlax is actually now the scum too?
Beskar likely thought that I was a liability and might change my votes as it was not the type of vote you make that is conclusive.
Because if you change it to a tie, and you can kill, you could very will be a serial killer and both me and TheFlax would be dead and you the winner.
However, with no tie, you can't do any mafia night kills.
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"We are living in space-age times but there's too many of us thinking with stone-age minds" | How to spot a Humanist
"Men of Quality do not fear Equality." | "Belief doesn't change facts. Facts, if you are reasonable, should change your beliefs."
This just made me seriously laugh out loud when I considered its irony in regards to this game and Beskar
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Vote: Cultured Drizzt fan
I seem to get a scummy vibe from him everytime, I might be wrong but I dislike his rampant vote switching. Unless someone points me toward a better vote, I'm going with this.
Awfully disappointing game for me, the last round involves the other 2 members in the game not staying for the discussion to the final few minutes. Heck, not even the last hour . So convinced of a person's guilt. This is a rather detrimental attitude for future games .
I am here and I replied. Don't fire all those WIFOM's rays out at us all.
Days since the Apocalypse began
"We are living in space-age times but there's too many of us thinking with stone-age minds" | How to spot a Humanist
"Men of Quality do not fear Equality." | "Belief doesn't change facts. Facts, if you are reasonable, should change your beliefs."
I vote switched once. Which I gave the reason for.
The vote switch was a legit exercise, also, you vote switched yourself, wouldn't that make you scum with your own reasoning?
Last edited by Beskar; 05-25-2009 at 10:47.
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"We are living in space-age times but there's too many of us thinking with stone-age minds" | How to spot a Humanist
"Men of Quality do not fear Equality." | "Belief doesn't change facts. Facts, if you are reasonable, should change your beliefs."
If the game ends up in the Draw with no one winning because you believe me and TheFlax to be mafia, then isn't that best for the federation in your opinion?
If so, why not do that and allow the federation to win the game? Or is it the case that you are not federation, thus hoping for TheFlax to vote switch himself in order to save you, a mafia member and preventing the federation from actually winning.
Last edited by Beskar; 05-25-2009 at 10:57.
Days since the Apocalypse began
"We are living in space-age times but there's too many of us thinking with stone-age minds" | How to spot a Humanist
"Men of Quality do not fear Equality." | "Belief doesn't change facts. Facts, if you are reasonable, should change your beliefs."
Oh, as a tip. If you wanted to pose as a pro-town role, you could have, Pizzaguy gave an opportunity for you to do. Instead of saying you purposely tried to kill the Captain, like you said you did. After all, if you was pro-town, why did you purposely choose the captain to kill?
You should have said you had a protection role and you prevented Kirk from killing another player, thus, this would make you look clean.
However, you admitted for purposely targeting Captain Kirk then feign shock and surprise that he was actually a bad guy!
Days since the Apocalypse began
"We are living in space-age times but there's too many of us thinking with stone-age minds" | How to spot a Humanist
"Men of Quality do not fear Equality." | "Belief doesn't change facts. Facts, if you are reasonable, should change your beliefs."
Oh another tip, if I was the actual killer, wouldn't I want you to tie the game, as therefore, I would have actually got a night phase kill?
Days since the Apocalypse began
"We are living in space-age times but there's too many of us thinking with stone-age minds" | How to spot a Humanist
"Men of Quality do not fear Equality." | "Belief doesn't change facts. Facts, if you are reasonable, should change your beliefs."
As far as I am aware, the Night Kills are certain kill. Are they actually different from that, DIY?
Days since the Apocalypse began
"We are living in space-age times but there's too many of us thinking with stone-age minds" | How to spot a Humanist
"Men of Quality do not fear Equality." | "Belief doesn't change facts. Facts, if you are reasonable, should change your beliefs."
I think he went to bed or something. I doubt he will be here until a few hours time.
Days since the Apocalypse began
"We are living in space-age times but there's too many of us thinking with stone-age minds" | How to spot a Humanist
"Men of Quality do not fear Equality." | "Belief doesn't change facts. Facts, if you are reasonable, should change your beliefs."
Diy let me clarify a few things. The reason I was not on is because I live in the EST timezone and I had to get up early. (I.E. Now) I has nothing to do with not wanting to debate. I'm sorry if it appears that way, but when the limit is 23:59 EST, I can stay on until the last second, of course it penalizes others.
My comment about rampant, emphasis on the word, has little to do with this game. Drizzt changed his vote like 4 times in one round in Rubicon and his reasons to vote were, in my opinion, unfounded. Yet it appears he was not scum.
For your benefit, when the game is done, I'll explain my reasoning in the last round, it will make things clearer for you I think. I did not act randomly or picked on you, it was deliberate. I had to look out for my objective.
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
TheFlax needs to die on principle. No townie should even be that scummy.
I noticed throughout the game there are different roles and factions. There were things about the game I noticed which I admittedly, didn't say to the public. I will reveal these at the end, and I wonder how close I got to what PizzaGuy envisioned layout of the game was.
Days since the Apocalypse began
"We are living in space-age times but there's too many of us thinking with stone-age minds" | How to spot a Humanist
"Men of Quality do not fear Equality." | "Belief doesn't change facts. Facts, if you are reasonable, should change your beliefs."
There are several different objections and win conditions. I think there are differences between different roles such as the faction-less serial killers, federation, faction members and other roles.
Though, I thought PizzaGuy was very biased against me in the game.
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"We are living in space-age times but there's too many of us thinking with stone-age minds" | How to spot a Humanist
"Men of Quality do not fear Equality." | "Belief doesn't change facts. Facts, if you are reasonable, should change your beliefs."
Spock, Uhura, and Chekov entered the Captain's ready room fully armed. They knew that there was still at least one killer left on board. After reviewing the evidence, there was some suspicion on Chekov, who had been curiously passive during most of the crew's struggle, with few exceptions. They didn't really suspect Uhura, however. The rest of the suspicion fell on "acting captain" Spock.
Spock: It is only logical for you to suspect me, but it was not I who killed Sulu. I killed Captain Kirk who was from the Mirror Universe.
Chekov: Well, I don't think one of us would be capable of such willainy. The whole concept sickens me to my wery soul. It makes me want to womit.
Uhura: Are you accusing me of murder, Spock? How dare you! I will not listen to such lies.
Spock: You won't listen to reason? Fascinating.
Uhura: You insult my honor! How could you accuse me after all we've been through together.
Chekov: I know that I am innocent. One of you is the wery intruder we'we ween wooking wor.
They both look at him incredulously.
Chekov: Newermind my accent. I understand it's distracting and makes me sound like a wampire. Bleh!
Spock: I can only deduce that it was Uhura all along. I'm going to have to kill you.
Chekov: That's not the starfleet way! Put down your weapon!
Spock advanced on Uhura with a look of.... murder in his eyes.
Uhura: Don't just stand there like a helpless tribble... Pavel, help me!
Chekov knew it was his time to shine. With a flick of his wrist, he twirled his phaser around like a gunslinger, and prepared to fire at Spock. But Spock, with lightning reflexes, turned and shot the phaser out of his hand. Chekov was only slightly stunned, and Spock kept advancing... reaching out with his powerful Vulcan hands, grabbing Uhura by the face...
Spock: My mind to your mind.... your thoughts to my thoughts....
Uhura: Get.... your filthy.... Vulcan hands... OFF OF ME!!!
Chekov ran across the room and gripped his hands together, and smashed them right between Spock's shoulders. The Vulcan staggered, but kept his grip on Uhura...
Spock: You filthy... pa'taQ...
Uhura smashed Spock in the face with her palm and caused the Vulcan to bleed green.
Spock: Enough of this.... die you worm!!!
Spock grabbed Uhura by the neck and proceeded to strangle her... Uhura responded by backhanding Spock to the face and landing several blows against the Vulcan. Just then Chekov had kicked Spock in the back of the knee and he started to stagger, and he twisted around. Pavel planted his fist into the face of the Vulcan, who crumpled to the ground with a look of anger and frustration on his face.
As Spock tried to sit up, Uhura landed a roundhouse kick to the face of Spock, snapping his neck backwards. The Vulcan landed against the deck with a sickening thud. Pavel took Spock's hand phaser and made sure he was completely inactive by firing at him.
Uhura: What do we do with him when he wakes up?
Chekov: I'm not sure... he did try to kill us. We must make wery sure he doesn't have any way to harm us again.
Uhura: With no one to guard the brig, there's no way we can hold him prisoner.
Chekov: What would you suggest we do?
Uhura: There's only one option... we have to...
Chekov: Kill him?
Uhura nodded. But just then Spock began to stir... the Vulcan's will to live was remarkable. And his will to murder was equally remarkable... he grabbed Uhura's leg and tried to pull her to the ground... and Chekov fired the phaser. This time, it was set to kill.
How was he allowed to kill/murder? It doesn't make much sense.
Days since the Apocalypse began
"We are living in space-age times but there's too many of us thinking with stone-age minds" | How to spot a Humanist
"Men of Quality do not fear Equality." | "Belief doesn't change facts. Facts, if you are reasonable, should change your beliefs."
Uhura did her sexy dance for her hero, Pavel Chekov.
Chekov just sat there on the bed and grinned. But he wasn't prepared for what happened next...
Just then, Uhura began to growl seductively. And she pounced on Chekov and they proceeded to (Not PG-13 material) each other all through the night like wild, vicious animals. Chekov's quarters were turned upside down, and various objects were thrown and smashed everywhere. The whole place was a mess... a horrible horrible mess... and several hours later, a bleeding and raw Chekov lay in his bed with a huge grin on his face, entirely spent.
Uhura leaned over to kiss him... and bit him on the lip with a low growl. Chekov could do nothing to resist... he was a very happy man. But then Uhura bit harder until it began to bleed, and took out a D'k Tagh and slashed Chekov's throat, and then savored the metallic flavor dripping from her blade.
Uhura howled with pleasure and grinned... baring her jagged, Klingon teeth. Chekov was dead, his throat slashed... and he died with a grin on his face.
The Klingon Assassin (Beskar) as Uhura survived... and brought another Glorious Victory for the KLINGON EMPIRE!!! THIS IS A GREAT DAY TO BE A KLINGON!!! Ka'plaH!!!! Ka'plaH!!!! Ka'plaH!!!! Ka'plaH!!!!
Beskar wins!
TheFlax gets an honorable mention for solving the case... albeit a round too late.
I let you onto a little secret. I was the only non-factionless serial killer out of the bad-guys. I was actually a faction assassin.
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Beskar- Uhura
Ah, Beskar... good. You have done well. I see that the surgeons have altered your appearance to reduce your cranial ridges. You should pass as a human female quite well.
You are a LOYAL Klingon Warrior, who will do battle for the KLINGON EMPIRE!!! You must infiltrate the Human crew, and destroy all those who oppose you. Gah hahahaha!!!
Don't forget your ceremonial assassin's D'k tagh and your Bat'leth. Slay the weakling humans.
Victory conditions: Destroy everyone on the ship. You do not need to survive in order for this to happen. Do not quote this role PM, and do not communicate with anyone outside of the thread. You cannot murder at night, and there is no night phase, unless the game stagnates and a draw is threatened. Then you may murder. Until then, "vote" the fools off their own ship.
KAPLAH!!!
Remember... you're supposed to be Uhura.
Last edited by Beskar; 05-26-2009 at 01:57.
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"We are living in space-age times but there's too many of us thinking with stone-age minds" | How to spot a Humanist
"Men of Quality do not fear Equality." | "Belief doesn't change facts. Facts, if you are reasonable, should change your beliefs."
You guessed basically straight away I was Uhura and then ATPG kept putting me into trouble by making Uhura appear in every write up looking suspicious. Evil!
Days since the Apocalypse began
"We are living in space-age times but there's too many of us thinking with stone-age minds" | How to spot a Humanist
"Men of Quality do not fear Equality." | "Belief doesn't change facts. Facts, if you are reasonable, should change your beliefs."
You guessed basically straight away I was Uhura and then ATPG kept putting me into trouble by making Uhura appear in every write up looking suspicious. Evil!
That was pure luck, I just thought it would be funny if you were Uhura.
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
TheFlax needs to die on principle. No townie should even be that scummy.
It was entirely possible that the serial killers and/or mafia would kill each other off during the night phase, and there were two townies.
There was also a correct solution to Flax's predicament... voting abstain and letting the two killers murder one another at night. Same as the end of the Treehouse of Horror.
The BIGGEST blunder ever in mafia history, killing thy own partner.
Aheheheh...
Beskar, your kill was 100%??? , or were you just lying for the benefit of ATPG
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Ok Spock... since they've decided to tie it up... tell me who you want dead tonight and there will be a 50% chance that it will happen.
Or you can remain silent and not kill anyone.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Death is Yonder- Spock
You're the Spock from the Mirror Universe. You're a savage, barbaric, twisted and evil man. You and one other have boarded the Ship of Doom, the USS Enterprise, which is always getting into some kind of a jam.
One of you, from the Mirror Universe, must survive. Find and locate your partner, but do not do this using private messages. Do not quote this role PM at all, and communication outside of the thread is discouraged. Those rules are in place to make the game slightly more difficult.
If you or your partner manage to survive the game, that counts as a victory for the Mirror Universe, and you'll be able to open a gateway between the dimensions and have the normal Universe overrun with evil conquerors just like yourself.
Victory Conditions: Survive the game. You have no ability to nightkill, but you can vote people off of the ship. If the game becomes stagnant or it looks like a draw may be forced, you may gain the ability to nightkill at the host's discretion.
Honestly, in hindsight, I should have targeted Beskar. I was contemplating Beskar or LG but I chose LG due to some random seventh sense of stupidity .
Guess where that got me
I think we could have won if I succeeded in killing Beskar instead of LG lol...
I just hope that LG won't take his revenge on me in Fillet Royale II
No hard feelings eh ? I admit I'm a noob mafia
I actually posted the double scum left theory as I suspected Beskar was scum. My original gameplan was to use my extra knowledge of the night kills (how they worked) to come up with believable theories but Beskar beat me to it, that's when I got suspicious.
Was a big mistake overextending my hand and voting along with Beskar against TheFlax. Lol, maybe if I voted TheFlax then Beskar would have died .
Don't worry TheFlax, my spree of losses continue
2 Games as townie, both lost and this game as mafia, lost.
Looks like mah track record is becoming like yours eh ATPG?
See ya all in the Fillet Royale II game. Eat meat!!
Ps: Awesome write up as usual ATPG , your writeups always serve to please
Edit: Lesson to self: WIFOM in the last round is always bad. xD
Last edited by Death is yonder; 05-26-2009 at 11:39.
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Re: Mini Mafia V- (IN PLAY)
Originally Posted by Death is yonder
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. So convinced of a person's guilt. This is a rather detrimental attitude for future games 
.
. Lol.
, or were you just lying for the benefit of ATPG
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