When will by ready Europa Barbarorum II?

[Imperator Invictus]

I will be pleased if you can aproximate for me, when Europa Barbarorum II will be finalised? Because I've played medieval, rome, medieval 2, eb I, a long time ago and I can't wait for EB II. :)

[Foot]

We honestly don't know. And even if we did, we are not to fond of offering promises.

In otherwords, it will be done when it's done.

Foot

[Imperator Invictus]

Ok, I know that EB II will be a great game to play whenever it will be ready

[Darius]

How long did it take for the first release of original EB?

[madbriton]

It'll be ready when it's ready.

[Hax]

How long did it take for the first release of original EB?

About 2 years for 0.80 IIRC

[gamerdude873]

About 2 years for 0.80 IIRC

would it be fair to say then that EB 2 might be released in about 3- 3 1/2 years, Then? Considering the fact that each unit now has some 3 or 4 models, buildings and textures are more complex than before etc... When did the EB 2 project start (last fall/summer????) So give it awhile. Heck, I'll be well into college by the time EB 2 is done.

Geez, i'll be old and a geezer by that time. What if I know better then? AHHHHH!!! MATURITY IS TRYING TO SQUELCH OUT THE REMNANTS OF MY ADOLESCENCE!!!

Thanks guys for the work you put in (and putting up with my weird sense of humor)

[Alsatia]

I thought it was first announced in 2006? I beleve this mod will be finished in 2011- 2013, but it is impossible to pin the tail on the dinkey. The team cannot make promises. It is done when it is done.

[gamerdude873]

Hey just thought I'd throw in this little factoid to help illustrate the scope of the project around here:

There are approximately some 37,000 (give or take a 1000) files in the whole Medieval 2 folder (according to my defragmenter this is WITHOUT kingdoms expansion, so... someone else needs to do THAT math). EB 2 is probably going to be somewhat bigger. Lucky Foot ain't the only one working on this mod!

[Darius]

Has the EB team significantly bigger this time and if so by how much? That would definitely help cut down on time. God the idea of having to wait for this for years made me die inside a little.

[lionhard]

Id like to know how far the project is so far, i hope it doesnt come to a standstill this game is gona pwn :P

[Hax]

Does everybody remember the 21/12/2012 thing?

[anubis88]

Perhaps the miracle of that date will be EB II's release

[Titus Magnus]

Yes, I can picture it now..... Foot announces the release 12/21/12 the meteor looks down upon such a marverllous creation being enjoyed all around the world and is consumed by the guilt of destroying it, so much so, that it bursts into tiny sandlike sizes and burns up in the atmosphere.... Another Catastrophe averted by EB.... nana na na

[Owen Glyndwr]

Neh it's done when it's done. Better for them to be mysterious and take their time than for us to get an unfinished product (see: Empire: TW)

Instead do fun stuff like re-reading the steles and previews a billion more times, and dreaming of that moment when you finally get to download the finished product...mmmmmmmm....

[Alsatia]

CA did a trashy job of Empire. I did not get the high or the hook I got from EB, M2TW, RTW etc. Very dissapointing.


Btw. I believe that 2012 is a scare and is total rubbish.

[Celtic_Tarànaich]

AS SOON AS POSSIBLE!

[anubis88]

CA did a trashy job of Empire. I did not get the high or the hook I got from EB, M2TW, RTW etc. Very dissapointing.


Btw. I believe that 2012 is a scare and is total rubbish.

Of course it is... I'm 20 and i've lived through more doomsday scenarios, that there are movies about the matter...

[Owen Glyndwr]

Yeah, agreed. Anyone remember the Y2K scare, that one sounds hilarious now, but it was kinda scary at the time.

The internal clocks on all the computers will get confused by having to switch to 00. It will create a paradox that will blow up every computer in the world!!! (Real scary, huh?)

[Tenebrous]

Would any member of team confirm it is truly years away?

[I Am Herenow]

How long did it take for the first release of original EB?

Before I became an EB member, I had researched the mod's different versions' release dates for the Europa Barbarorum Wikipedia article; the last (now slightly outdated) version of that information before it was decided that it should be removed can be found here. I hope that helps.

I Am Herenow

[Celtic_Punk]

We honestly don't know. And even if we did, we are not to fond of offering promises.

In otherwords, it will be done when it's done.

Foot

how many times have i heard that?


STOP ASKING WHEN IT WILL BE DONE! IT WILL BE DONE WHEN ITS DONE!

on that note? things progressing nicely?

[Celtic_Tarànaich]

I think that Eb2'll take more time to make than EB1 simply because you must diversify the units.

[Kara Mustafa]

Uh first release still years away? Sounds really bad. But I guess it is a logical prediction, considering the ammount of work...

I can still enjoy other MTW II and Empire mods until then, and also good ol' EB

[Andy1984]

Could one just compare the amount of time needed to create RTW-EB with the time needed to make EBII? I guess not, since some work from the previous version can probably be copied from EB1. I'm referring to part of the voice mod, historical information, perhaps the trait-system, ... Besides these advantages, I guess the EB-team will have built up quite some experience with the scripting or other major aspects of modding. Therefore, I wouldn't be surprised to see significant advances being spoken off once the transition towards the MTW-engine is fully completed.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Here is my attempt at an educated guess.
The first post in the "In The Beginning" thread which was the very first thread for EB was 1-12-04. From that very beginning the first public release was released (exact date, courtesy of I am Herenow's link) on 12-27-05. About two years for the very basic version of 0.7.2 to come out. If you want exact amounts it is 716 days or 1 year, 11 months and 16 days.

Now from what I understand full work on EBII did not begin until 1.2 was finished.
Bovi's 1.2 release thread was formed on 11-21-08. Assuming for small fluctuations in team size (because I doubt the team would change its size too significantly which could disrupt their cohesion, organization and flow) as well as the extra time needed to be put in for M2TW due to its new pros and cons over the RTW, I expect the first public version to be released from about 5-10% earlier (and thats pushing it with both a larger team size and little time needed to be spent on the transition to the new game) and anywhere from 10-20% later (with smaller team size and a lengthy transition to the new game).

What does this mean in terms of raw dates?
Well if we are going to base our entire guessing off of the time it took to make EBI, then the range would be around 644-859 days from Bovi's announcement of 1.2's release.
Which would mean that the first public version of EBII (not refined whatsoever) would be released within: 8-27-10 (Or Friday, August 27, 2010) and 3-30-11 (Or Wednesday, March 30, 2011).

Any additional information would help greatly in my calculations. Such as exact numbers for the EB team during 2004-2005 and 2008-today to provide more accurate numbers.

-ACIN

[BozosLiveHere]

Assuming for small fluctuations in team size (because I doubt the team would change its size too significantly which could disrupt their cohesion, organization and flow) as well as the extra time needed to be put in for M2TW due to its new pros and cons over the RTW, I expect the first public version to be released from about 5-10% earlier (and thats pushing it with both a larger team size and little time needed to be spent on the transition to the new game) and anywhere from 10-20% later (with smaller team size and a lengthy transition to the new game).

Actually, team size and composition fluctuates a lot. For example, not one of the current unit artists were members when I joined the team (around mid-'06).

[Alsatia]

I fear for EB II....


It will take a long time, and i'd probably double the forecast of release because of the sheer amount of data to be modded and the member dissapearences....

[Owen Glyndwr]

Guys, certainly you must realize that the longer you spend thinking about how long it's going to take, the longer it takes. (See: Cartman in the Wii episode of South Park if you don't believe me).

Trust me, things will go faster if you find something to distract yourself rather than pacing back and forth in front of the hypothetical video game store waiting x amount of time for this mod to finally be released in all its gloriousness.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Actually, team size and composition fluctuates a lot. For example, not one of the current unit artists were members when I joined the team (around mid-'06).

Could you or one of the EB team members be courteous enough to provide at least a rough estimate of current members and an estimate of the number of members between 2005 through the first public release?