Texas - ground-to-air missile launched at civ airplane?
FoxNews and the The Houston Chronicle report that last Friday a civilian airplane coming from Bush International and headed for South Carolina was targeted by a missile. This at 13.000 feet. It was a near-miss (30 feet), according to the pilot who is ex-military and apparently knows his missiles.
Is this plausible? Do we have people on the forum who are familiar with ground to air and can tell me more?
The bloody trouble is we are only alive when we’re half dead trying to get a paragraph right. - Paul Scott
Re: Texas - ground-to-air missile launched at civ airplane?
so, heres a link to the article (sorry it was the only souce i could find in 30 seconds).
ok SFTS, what did you do this time?...
Last edited by Hooahguy; 06-04-2009 at 12:15.
On the Path to the Streets of Gold: a Suebi AAR
Visited:
Hvil i fred HoreToreA man who casts no shadow has no soul.
Re: Texas - ground-to-air missile launched at civ airplane?
Technically it is plausible as the max ceiling of man portable missiles is 11-15,000 feet or so IIRC.
CBR
Re : Texas - ground-to-air missile launched at civ airplane?
Does the range of these missiles cover the Atlantic coast off Brazil?
Re: Texas - ground-to-air missile launched at civ airplane?
Well, for the stinger it would be just above maximum range according to wikipedia, not sure about bthe russian counterpart or whatever other systems exist. Now the question is why would the government try to shoot down a plane? Was the pilot the only one on board? Does the government want to silence him? Is he involved with the mafia? Was it an airbus A-300 with 130000 people on board or was it a Cessna carrying some heroin? Did they find any suspect fingerprints on the plane?
"Topic is tired and needs a nap." - Tosa Inu
Re: Texas - ground-to-air missile launched at civ airplane?
There are supposedly a lot of amateur rocket-builders in that area. I find it rather hard to believe that it was shot to take out that plane, if they, whoever they may be, can get their hands on something like that wouldn't they know about altitude-limitations?
Re: Texas - ground-to-air missile launched at civ airplane?
Lots of Country Clubs and golf courses east of that airport, and Lake Houston nearby. No wonder they can't find the rocket or debris.
Second incident recently. If the rocket(s) are home-made, NASA will want to hire the builder, an obviously talented guy. If not home-made, then certainly military in capability - and therefore highly worthy of investigation.
Be well. Do good. Keep in touch.
Re: Texas - ground-to-air missile launched at civ airplane?
Haven't heard about this since last week. Something tells me this wasn't a case of local yokels going ballistic, but hey.Originally Posted by KukriKhan
The bloody trouble is we are only alive when we’re half dead trying to get a paragraph right. - Paul Scott
Re: Texas - ground-to-air missile launched at civ airplane?
See here for links to the many, serious, rocket-hobby clubs and groups in the area.
Maybe someone (or several someones) preparing for the "launch season".
Be well. Do good. Keep in touch.
Re: Texas - ground-to-air missile launched at civ airplane?
I don't see any launches planned there. No FAA flight restrictions for the area on 6/2 either. Besides, the FBI and County Sheriff would have investigated them by now. They can read the yellow pages, too. And something tells me this sort of thing doesn't happen twice in a row in the same area.
But yeah, for all we know it might have been David Carradine's parting shot.
The bloody trouble is we are only alive when we’re half dead trying to get a paragraph right. - Paul Scott
Re: Texas - ground-to-air missile launched at civ airplane?
So you still think it's them (the illuminati)?
"Topic is tired and needs a nap." - Tosa Inu
Re: Texas - ground-to-air missile launched at civ airplane?
If it is indeed a terrorist attack my money would be on some extreme-rightwing group trying to sabotage Obama's efforts. A downed plane would be all too convenient.
Re: Texas - ground-to-air missile launched at civ airplane?
You think so?
Anyway, looks like this incident has been defused.
Last edited by Adrian II; 06-08-2009 at 18:55.
The bloody trouble is we are only alive when we’re half dead trying to get a paragraph right. - Paul Scott
Re : Texas - ground-to-air missile launched at civ airplane?
I blame the ecofascists.
Obama hasn't been taking care of that puppy he bought.
Re: Re : Texas - ground-to-air missile launched at civ airplane?
Great. Another Pulitzer for Louis.I blame the ecofascists.
Obama hasn't been taking care of that puppy he bought.
The bloody trouble is we are only alive when we’re half dead trying to get a paragraph right. - Paul Scott
Re : Re: Re : Texas - ground-to-air missile launched at civ airplane?
It's where my solid classical education of reading Homer's Odissypus' Travels in its Latin original has gotten me.
Last edited by Louis VI the Fat; 06-08-2009 at 19:22.
Re: Re : Re: Re : Texas - ground-to-air missile launched at civ airplane?
*sigh*
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Reinvent the British and you get a global finance center, edible food and better service. Reinvent the French and you may just get more Germans.
Ik hou van ferme grieten en dikke pinten
Down with dried flowers!
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Re: Re : Re: Re : Texas - ground-to-air missile launched at civ airplane?
Louis will be here all week. Right Louis?*sigh*
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
The bloody trouble is we are only alive when we’re half dead trying to get a paragraph right. - Paul Scott
Re: Texas - ground-to-air missile launched at civ airplane?
I don't disagree with your line of reasoning (in regards to what group is the most likely to spawn terrorists), but that alleged terrorist plan seems to be much the work of the government informer. He gathered the group, pushed them to make plans to attack, and (IIRC) went for the weapons. So I'm skeptical that those guys, unconnected with the informant, would have been that dangerous.
CR
Ja Mata, Tosa.
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
Re: Texas - ground-to-air missile launched at civ airplane?
Muha. I am always right.
Re: Texas - ground-to-air missile launched at civ airplane?
I agree. It's just that I disagree with Fragony that the hillbilly militia would be the most likely candidate. Firing missiles at airplanes isn't their thing. Something of that nature is much more likely to be the work of self-styled jihadists like those four jail converts, or like the guy in Little Rock who shot two soldiers.
It's funny how the authorities always downplay such incidents. The New York four were said to be just unstable people, not really terrorists at all. They had no ideological motives, it was said. No Sir. They just hated Jews and the U.S. government so they got organized in order to blow things up and kill as many people as they could.
Happens all the time, right?
Right.
I already defused you ages ago.
Last edited by Adrian II; 06-09-2009 at 07:06.
The bloody trouble is we are only alive when we’re half dead trying to get a paragraph right. - Paul Scott
Re: Texas - ground-to-air missile launched at civ airplane?
if
Gut was right: 'There are supposedly a lot of amateur rocket-builders in that area. I find it rather hard to believe that it was shot to take out that plane'
Re: Texas - ground-to-air missile launched at civ airplane?
Pfft. It was the Canadians.
Re : Re: Re : Re: Re : Texas - ground-to-air missile launched at civ airplane?
I'm rather busy at the moment. I've finally gotten round to reading up on all those classics:Louis will be here all week. Right Louis?
Homer - Jason and the Argonauts
Homer - Jason and the Argonauts II: Medea's revenge
Virgil - Aeneid versus the Minotaur
Thucydidecq - Elementary Pericles
Tribusuomo - Castor and Bollox
Re: Texas - ground-to-air missile launched at civ airplane?
Oh snap, and here i really thought it was the Illuminati....
"Topic is tired and needs a nap." - Tosa Inu
Re: Re : Re: Re : Re: Re : Texas - ground-to-air missile launched at civ airplane?
Agamemnonator I and II ...
The bloody trouble is we are only alive when we’re half dead trying to get a paragraph right. - Paul Scott
Posting Permissions
Reply With Quote
Bookmarks